https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/api.php?action=feedcontributions&user=SkyeAuroline&feedformat=atomWarhammer 40k - Lexicanum - User contributions [en]2024-03-29T06:26:23ZUser contributionsMediaWiki 1.30.0https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=Arkan_Confederates&diff=399482Arkan Confederates2019-07-10T01:28:17Z<p>SkyeAuroline: /* Equipment */</p>
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The '''Arkan Confederates''' (also erroneously spelled ''"Arkhan"'', see note) are the [[Imperial Guard Regiment]]s hailing from the world of '''Providence'''.{{Fn|1a}} Known actions include battling the [[Tau Empire]] and their rebellious [[Human]] allies on the world of [[Phaedra]].{{Fn|1}}<br />
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==Equipment==<br />
The Arkan Confederates employ modified patterns of [[Sentinel]]s, designed with hooves suited for Providence's savannahs in place of the standard claws.{{Fn|1a}} Locally produced heirloom [[power armor]] known as '''Stormsuits''' and '''Thundersuits''' are employed as heavy infantry, operating outside of the standard company structure in a noble brotherhood known as the '''Steamblood Zouaves'''. Each suit is unique to its bearer, though most are armed with [[heavy stubber]]s and melee weapons such as saws or drills. Though tough, the suits are unsubtle and difficult to maintain, closer to status symbols than military equipment{{Fn|1b}}<br />
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[[Tech-Priest]]s attached to the Arkan Confederates, named ''professors'' by Guardsmen after their pre-Imperium equivalents,{{Fn|1b}} were known to make significant alterations to regimental equipment, such as retrofitting standard Sentinels with jump packs and stabilizers to emulate Elysian [[Drop Sentinel]]s.{{Fn|1a}}<br />
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==Notable Regiments==<br />
:'''19th Arkan Confederates''' - Participated in the [[Phaedra]] campaign and the civil war on [[Providence]].{{Fn|1a}}<br />
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==Note==<br />
While ''Arkan'' is the only spelling used throughout the novel [[Black Library]] itself seems to have mispelled it as ''Ark'''h'''an'' in its abstract on the product website.{{Fn|2}}, a spelling mistake that has since found its way onto many other websites.<br />
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==Sources==<br />
*{{Endn|1}}: [[Fire Caste (Novel)]]<br />
**{{Endn|1a}}: Chapter One<br />
**{{Endn|1b}}: Chapter Two<br />
*{{Endn|2}}: [https://www.blacklibrary.com/all-products/fire-caste-ebook.html Black Library: Fire Caste] ''(last accessed 9 July 2019)''<br />
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[[Category:Astra Militarum Regiments]]</div>SkyeAurolinehttps://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=Arkan_Confederates&diff=399481Arkan Confederates2019-07-10T01:28:01Z<p>SkyeAuroline: </p>
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The '''Arkan Confederates''' (also erroneously spelled ''"Arkhan"'', see note) are the [[Imperial Guard Regiment]]s hailing from the world of '''Providence'''.{{Fn|1a}} Known actions include battling the [[Tau Empire]] and their rebellious [[Human]] allies on the world of [[Phaedra]].{{Fn|1}}<br />
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==Equipment==<br />
The Arkan Confederates employ modified patterns of Sentinels, designed with hooves suited for Providence's savannahs in place of the standard claws.{{Fn|1a}} Locally produced heirloom [[power armor]] known as '''Stormsuits''' and '''Thundersuits''' are employed as heavy infantry, operating outside of the standard company structure in a noble brotherhood known as the '''Steamblood Zouaves'''. Each suit is unique to its bearer, though most are armed with [[heavy stubber]]s and melee weapons such as saws or drills. Though tough, the suits are unsubtle and difficult to maintain, closer to status symbols than military equipment{{Fn|1b}}<br />
<br />
[[Tech-Priest]]s attached to the Arkan Confederates, named ''professors'' by Guardsmen after their pre-Imperium equivalents,{{Fn|1b}} were known to make significant alterations to regimental equipment, such as retrofitting standard Sentinels with jump packs and stabilizers to emulate Elysian [[Drop Sentinel]]s.{{Fn|1a}}<br />
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==Notable Regiments==<br />
:'''19th Arkan Confederates''' - Participated in the [[Phaedra]] campaign and the civil war on [[Providence]].{{Fn|1a}}<br />
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==Note==<br />
While ''Arkan'' is the only spelling used throughout the novel [[Black Library]] itself seems to have mispelled it as ''Ark'''h'''an'' in its abstract on the product website.{{Fn|2}}, a spelling mistake that has since found its way onto many other websites.<br />
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==Sources==<br />
*{{Endn|1}}: [[Fire Caste (Novel)]]<br />
**{{Endn|1a}}: Chapter One<br />
**{{Endn|1b}}: Chapter Two<br />
*{{Endn|2}}: [https://www.blacklibrary.com/all-products/fire-caste-ebook.html Black Library: Fire Caste] ''(last accessed 9 July 2019)''<br />
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[[Category:Astra Militarum Regiments]]</div>SkyeAurolinehttps://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=Arkan_Confederates&diff=399479Arkan Confederates2019-07-10T01:03:03Z<p>SkyeAuroline: Correcting false information, starting to bring in information.</p>
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<div>{{AstraMilitarumPortal}}<br />
{{stub}}<br />
The '''Arkan Confederates''' (also erroneously spelled ''"Arkhan"'', see note) are the [[Imperial Guard Regiment]]s hailing from the world of [[Providence]].{{Fn|1a}} Known actions include battling the [[Tau Empire]] and their rebellious [[Human]] allies on the world of [[Phaedra]].{{Fn|1}}<br />
<br />
==Equipment==<br />
The Arkan Confederates employ modified patterns of Sentinels, designed with hooves suited for Providence's savannahs in place of the standard claws.{{Fn|1a}} Locally produced heirloom [[power armor]] known as '''Stormsuits''' and '''Thundersuits''' are employed as heavy infantry, operating outside of the standard company structure in a noble brotherhood known as the '''Steamblood Zouaves'''. Each suit is unique to its bearer, though most are armed with [[heavy stubber]]s and melee weapons such as saws or drills. Though tough, the suits are unsubtle and difficult to maintain, closer to status symbols than military equipment{{Fn|1b}}<br />
<br />
[[Tech-Priest]]s attached to the Arkan Confederates, named ''professors'' by Guardsmen after their pre-Imperium equivalents,{{Fn|1b}} were known to make significant alterations to regimental equipment, such as retrofitting standard Sentinels with jump packs and stabilizers to emulate Elysian [[Drop Sentinel]]s.{{Fn|1a}}<br />
<br />
==Notable Regiments==<br />
:'''19th Arkan Confederates''' - Participated in the [[Phaedra]] campaign and the civil war on [[Providence]].{{Fn|1a}}<br />
<br />
==Note==<br />
While ''Arkan'' is the only spelling used throughout the novel [[Black Library]] itself seems to have mispelled it as ''Ark'''h'''an'' in its abstract on the product website.{{Fn|2}}, a spelling mistake that has since found its way onto many other websites.<br />
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==Sources==<br />
*{{Endn|1}}: [[Fire Caste (Novel)]]<br />
**{{Endn|1a}}: Chapter One<br />
**{{Endn|1b}}: Chapter Two<br />
*{{Endn|2}}: [https://www.blacklibrary.com/all-products/fire-caste-ebook.html Black Library: Fire Caste] ''(last accessed 9 July 2019)''<br />
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[[Category:Astra Militarum Regiments]]</div>SkyeAurolinehttps://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=Talk:Arkan_Confederates&diff=399478Talk:Arkan Confederates2019-07-10T00:46:32Z<p>SkyeAuroline: </p>
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<div>This page has the regiment's name spelled incorrectly; the correct overall name is "Arkan Confederates". Could the article be moved under the correct name? [[User:SkyeAuroline|SkyeAuroline]] ([[User talk:SkyeAuroline|talk]]) 19:14, 8 July 2019 (MDT)<br />
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:Are you really sure? Just from the number of search results on Google it's 180 for "Arkan" but 1.420 for "Arkhan". No definitive proof, obviously, but enough to double-check. --[[User:Inquisitor S.|Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum]] ([[User talk:Inquisitor S.|talk]]) 22:43, 8 July 2019 (MDT)<br />
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::Even the [https://www.blacklibrary.com/all-products/fire-caste-ebook.html official Black Library "blurp"] spells them as "Arkhan Confederates": ''"In the jungles of the Dolorosa Coil, a coalition of alien tau and human deserters have waged war upon the Imperium for countless years. Fresh Imperial Guard forces from the '''Arkhan Confederates''' are sent in to break the stalemate and annihilate the xenos. But greater forces are at work, and the Confederates soon find themselves broken and scattered. As they fight a desperate guerrilla war, their only hope may lie in the hands of a disgraced commissar, hell-bent on revenge."'' --[[User:Inquisitor S.|Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum]] ([[User talk:Inquisitor S.|talk]]) 22:49, 8 July 2019 (MDT)<br />
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:::In the e-book of '''Fire Cast''' novel is also written "Arkan" everywhere. And never written "Arkhan". May be there are two variants depending of releases or something?--[[User:Darkelf77|Darkelf77]] ([[User talk:Darkelf77|talk]]) 23:53, 8 July 2019 (MDT)<br />
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::::In the physical book of '''Fire Caste''' I own, it’s spelled “Arkhan” everywhere. [[User:KazilDarkeye|KazilDarkeye]] ([[User talk:KazilDarkeye|talk]]) 23:59, 8 July 2019 (MDT)<br />
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:::::Thanks. So, there are two variants. Unfortunately it happens in books of Warhammer 40k... I think that now (to avoid misunderstandings), it is necessary to include both spellings in the article and indicate that '''Arkhan Confederates''' has a source on the website of BL and paper book, and '''Arkan Confederates''' are mentioned in the e-book. Just so that people do not get confused when they encounter the "wrong spelling" in their source. That's my opinion.--[[User:Darkelf77|Darkelf77]] ([[User talk:Darkelf77|talk]]) 00:11, 9 July 2019 (MDT)<br />
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::::::How dumb is that that the paper version spells it one way and the e-version another... --[[User:Inquisitor S.|Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum]] ([[User talk:Inquisitor S.|talk]]) 00:37, 9 July 2019 (MDT)<br />
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:::::::Lack of editors or just inattention to details may be.--[[User:Darkelf77|Darkelf77]] ([[User talk:Darkelf77|talk]]) 01:01, 9 July 2019 (MDT)<br />
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::::::::Yes, but it should basically have been a simple copy/ paste job... I mean we have other cases where spelling mistakes have been carried over over 7 editions because GW just copies its own texts... --[[User:Inquisitor S.|Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum]] ([[User talk:Inquisitor S.|talk]]) 01:13, 9 July 2019 (MDT)<br />
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:::::::::O.K. major embarrassment time here - I meant to write that my physical copy DOES say "Arkan", not "Arkhan". I am terribly sorry and in hindsight I should have written that when I wasn't in a hurry to get to work. I can also confirm that the back blurb of my copy also says Arkan, so it would appear to be a simple mistake on the Black Library website page. [[User:KazilDarkeye|KazilDarkeye]] ([[User talk:KazilDarkeye|talk]]) 08:38, 9 July 2019 (MDT)<br />
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::::::::::Then Arkhan should be left only in the article about the story, where the Plot from the site of BL is stated. May be also with appropriate Note about this complication.--[[User:Darkelf77|Darkelf77]] ([[User talk:Darkelf77|talk]]) 10:26, 9 July 2019 (MDT)<br />
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:::::::::::If it is an obvious mistake I would ''not'' even leave it in the official blurp in the novel article. The internal link will lead people to the correct page where a corresponding note should be placed. --[[User:Inquisitor S.|Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum]] ([[User talk:Inquisitor S.|talk]]) 10:49, 9 July 2019 (MDT)<br />
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::::::::::::Agree.--[[User:Darkelf77|Darkelf77]] ([[User talk:Darkelf77|talk]]) 12:01, 9 July 2019 (MDT)<br />
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==19th Arkan Confederates==<br />
I haven't read the novel. But flicking through it I get the impression it's all about the 19th Arkan Confederates, and not '''all''' Arkan Confederates. So this article might be misleading. There also seems to be frequent mention of a world called "Providence"... So I hope people are '''really''' sure that "Arkan" is the world the regiment is from... --[[User:Inquisitor S.|Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum]] ([[User talk:Inquisitor S.|talk]]) 14:01, 9 July 2019 (MDT)<br />
:It is about the 19th. I think it's also worth pointing out that the Dolorosa Coil is not a planet - it's a network of jungle islands on a planet called Phaedra (human name) or Fi'draah (Tau name). Note: Not sure about the spelling. [[User:KazilDarkeye|KazilDarkeye]] ([[User talk:KazilDarkeye|talk]]) 14:15, 9 July 2019 (MDT)<br />
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::That does not bode too well... --[[User:Inquisitor S.|Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum]] ([[User talk:Inquisitor S.|talk]]) 14:19, 9 July 2019 (MDT)<br />
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:::That's on my list to correct as I work on the page. Unfortunately, while some of the book refers to information applicable across the Arkan Confederates in general, there's quite a lot of information only applicable to the 19th specifically, and the 19th is the only named regiment of the Arkan Confederates in canon so far. Holding off on bringing in information that, as far as I can tell, is 19th-specific; that does seem to be the vast majority though.[[User:SkyeAuroline|SkyeAuroline]] ([[User talk:SkyeAuroline|talk]]) 18:25, 9 July 2019 (MDT)</div>SkyeAurolinehttps://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=Talk:Arkan_Confederates&diff=399477Talk:Arkan Confederates2019-07-10T00:28:27Z<p>SkyeAuroline: /* 19th Arkan Confederates */</p>
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<div>This page has the regiment's name spelled incorrectly; the correct overall name is "Arkan Confederates". Could the article be moved under the correct name? [[User:SkyeAuroline|SkyeAuroline]] ([[User talk:SkyeAuroline|talk]]) 19:14, 8 July 2019 (MDT)<br />
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:Are you really sure? Just from the number of search results on Google it's 180 for "Arkan" but 1.420 for "Arkhan". No definitive proof, obviously, but enough to double-check. --[[User:Inquisitor S.|Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum]] ([[User talk:Inquisitor S.|talk]]) 22:43, 8 July 2019 (MDT)<br />
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::Even the [https://www.blacklibrary.com/all-products/fire-caste-ebook.html official Black Library "blurp"] spells them as "Arkhan Confederates": ''"In the jungles of the Dolorosa Coil, a coalition of alien tau and human deserters have waged war upon the Imperium for countless years. Fresh Imperial Guard forces from the '''Arkhan Confederates''' are sent in to break the stalemate and annihilate the xenos. But greater forces are at work, and the Confederates soon find themselves broken and scattered. As they fight a desperate guerrilla war, their only hope may lie in the hands of a disgraced commissar, hell-bent on revenge."'' --[[User:Inquisitor S.|Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum]] ([[User talk:Inquisitor S.|talk]]) 22:49, 8 July 2019 (MDT)<br />
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:::In the e-book of '''Fire Cast''' novel is also written "Arkan" everywhere. And never written "Arkhan". May be there are two variants depending of releases or something?--[[User:Darkelf77|Darkelf77]] ([[User talk:Darkelf77|talk]]) 23:53, 8 July 2019 (MDT)<br />
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::::In the physical book of '''Fire Caste''' I own, it’s spelled “Arkhan” everywhere. [[User:KazilDarkeye|KazilDarkeye]] ([[User talk:KazilDarkeye|talk]]) 23:59, 8 July 2019 (MDT)<br />
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:::::Thanks. So, there are two variants. Unfortunately it happens in books of Warhammer 40k... I think that now (to avoid misunderstandings), it is necessary to include both spellings in the article and indicate that '''Arkhan Confederates''' has a source on the website of BL and paper book, and '''Arkan Confederates''' are mentioned in the e-book. Just so that people do not get confused when they encounter the "wrong spelling" in their source. That's my opinion.--[[User:Darkelf77|Darkelf77]] ([[User talk:Darkelf77|talk]]) 00:11, 9 July 2019 (MDT)<br />
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::::::How dumb is that that the paper version spells it one way and the e-version another... --[[User:Inquisitor S.|Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum]] ([[User talk:Inquisitor S.|talk]]) 00:37, 9 July 2019 (MDT)<br />
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:::::::Lack of editors or just inattention to details may be.--[[User:Darkelf77|Darkelf77]] ([[User talk:Darkelf77|talk]]) 01:01, 9 July 2019 (MDT)<br />
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::::::::Yes, but it should basically have been a simple copy/ paste job... I mean we have other cases where spelling mistakes have been carried over over 7 editions because GW just copies its own texts... --[[User:Inquisitor S.|Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum]] ([[User talk:Inquisitor S.|talk]]) 01:13, 9 July 2019 (MDT)<br />
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:::::::::O.K. major embarrassment time here - I meant to write that my physical copy DOES say "Arkan", not "Arkhan". I am terribly sorry and in hindsight I should have written that when I wasn't in a hurry to get to work. I can also confirm that the back blurb of my copy also says Arkan, so it would appear to be a simple mistake on the Black Library website page. [[User:KazilDarkeye|KazilDarkeye]] ([[User talk:KazilDarkeye|talk]]) 08:38, 9 July 2019 (MDT)<br />
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::::::::::Then Arkhan should be left only in the article about the story, where the Plot from the site of BL is stated. May be also with appropriate Note about this complication.--[[User:Darkelf77|Darkelf77]] ([[User talk:Darkelf77|talk]]) 10:26, 9 July 2019 (MDT)<br />
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:::::::::::If it is an obvious mistake I would ''not'' even leave it in the official blurp in the novel article. The internal link will lead people to the correct page where a corresponding note should be placed. --[[User:Inquisitor S.|Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum]] ([[User talk:Inquisitor S.|talk]]) 10:49, 9 July 2019 (MDT)<br />
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::::::::::::Agree.--[[User:Darkelf77|Darkelf77]] ([[User talk:Darkelf77|talk]]) 12:01, 9 July 2019 (MDT)<br />
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==19th Arkan Confederates==<br />
I haven't read the novel. But flicking through it I get the impression it's all about the 19th Arkan Confederates, and not '''all''' Arkan Confederates. So this article might be misleading. There also seems to be frequent mention of a world called "Providence"... So I hope people are '''really''' sure that "Arkan" is the world the regiment is from... --[[User:Inquisitor S.|Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum]] ([[User talk:Inquisitor S.|talk]]) 14:01, 9 July 2019 (MDT)<br />
:It is about the 19th. I think it's also worth pointing out that the Dolorosa Coil is not a planet - it's a network of jungle islands on a planet called Phaedra (human name) or Fi'draah (Tau name). Note: Not sure about the spelling. [[User:KazilDarkeye|KazilDarkeye]] ([[User talk:KazilDarkeye|talk]]) 14:15, 9 July 2019 (MDT)<br />
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::That does not bode too well... --[[User:Inquisitor S.|Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum]] ([[User talk:Inquisitor S.|talk]]) 14:19, 9 July 2019 (MDT)<br />
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:::That's on my list to correct as I work on the page. Unfortunately, while some of the book refers to information applicable across the Arkan Confederates in general, there's quite a lot of information only applicable to the 19th specifically, and the 19th is the only named regiment of the Arkan Confederates in canon so far. [[User:SkyeAuroline|SkyeAuroline]] ([[User talk:SkyeAuroline|talk]]) 18:25, 9 July 2019 (MDT)</div>SkyeAurolinehttps://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=Talk:Arkan_Confederates&diff=399347Talk:Arkan Confederates2019-07-09T01:14:11Z<p>SkyeAuroline: Created page with "This page has the regiment's name spelled incorrectly; the correct overall name is "Arkan Confederates". Could the article be moved under the correct name? ~~~~"</p>
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<div>This page has the regiment's name spelled incorrectly; the correct overall name is "Arkan Confederates". Could the article be moved under the correct name? [[User:SkyeAuroline|SkyeAuroline]] ([[User talk:SkyeAuroline|talk]]) 19:14, 8 July 2019 (MDT)</div>SkyeAuroline