Talk:Lasgun

For the record - Lascarbine is a variant of lasgun. It is often referenced as lasgun, has similar characerisics and the same profile on tabletop. Because of it, it is included in this article. Long-Las and Hellgun have no place here. --Rolz

What's the source for the name of the "Ryza Pattern Lasgun"? The sources mentioned just show that design being used, with no identifying pattern mentioned. --Tindalos

About the models

I have no idea how these models are categoried (word, it is!) in this page but I didn't dare to make any changes if someone is working on this already.

Just in case you hadn't noticed, I have gathered some patterns and marks about Imperial weapons. Can be found from my talk page http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/User:Remos#Laser_weapons. Please, use them as you please, hopefully they are of any help.--Remos 09:28, 8 June 2013 (CEST)

Lasgun Types

As I could find no source material indicating that Catachan regiments use a Mk4 "Catachan" lascarbine (indeed, the source to which we are linked simply calls their weapon a "Mk4 lascarbine"; the only mention of the word "Catachan" is in the name of the users), I have removed what I felt was an erroneous piece of information.

While we're at it, let's try and get some more robust sources for some of the less obvious items on the page. The Mars, Voss, and Ryza-patterns spring to mind as things for which the sources are either not easily verifiable, misquoted, or inaccessible (or that have been wrongly extrapolated from less specific source material). In a similar fashion, this is the only place where I've come across the image under the "Triplex Phall" heading being used for anything other than a standard M-Galaxy (in fact, the source to which we're directed doesn't even identify the lasgun's pattern; compare and contrast the exact same image in the 3rd Edition rulebook -- also found here -- where it's labelled as just an M-Galaxy.) -Lucinus 09:32, 12 July 2013 (CEST)

Lascarbine

I feel I'm being a little pedantic here, but how could a las-carbine possibly have a shorter range than a Lasgun? A Las-beam is a beam of light and light is the fastest travelling visible object in the universe. Hence upon pulling the trigger, the Las-beam would reach a Guardsman's target instantly, with fractional or no loss of energy. Hence range would be the same as the sheer range of a laser is monumental and dissipation of the laser would only really happen over a vast distant - not just over the battlefield. I know this is a bit pedantic, but it possibly shouldn't be included as it may be mis-leading to readers. -- user did not sign off

While the range on a beam of light may well be vast, energy does tend to "bloom" in an atmosphere. For a real-world example of light blooming that you can test easily, take a torch or flashlight and try shining it along the street, towards the end of your garden/driveway, etc; obviously the flashlight's beam is nothing like a lasgun's, but it's still very easy to test. In terms of 40K, this means we can sort-of-handwave the range thing by pointing out that the lascarbine's smaller and therefore less able to focus a beam to the same extent as a larger lasgun. - Lucinus 21:08, 16 July 2013 (CEST)

If you don't have an official source saying otherwise, it just is as it is. Period. Or unless somebody put information that isn't properly sourced. "Logic" doesn't come into the argument at any point. --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum 10:57, 17 July 2013 (CEST)

PowerPack

The resultant explosion, however, is powerful enough to crack open the frontal armor of a Chaos Dreadnought.[3a] 3: Imperial Armour Volume Five - The Siege of Vraks - Part One 3a: pg. 16

i read the book and P.16 is all about the equipment of a DKK infantryman.there is nothing about usage of overcharged power pack,could someone give a right source?

M35 M-Galaxy

The given source (Uplifting primer) neither gives the number "M35" nor the name "Galaxy". --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum (talk) 17:06, 7 April 2018 (MDT)

I confirm. Only 'M-G Short Pattern Lasgun'. This ('M35 Galaxy') is either a speculation either its source unclear.--Darkelf77 (talk) 02:19, 8 April 2018 (MDT)

Somebody should check the Damocles Gulf edition (=2nd edition) of the primer just in case. But I concur and would advise to mark this info as unsourced. --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum (talk) 02:55, 8 April 2018 (MDT)

Maccabian Janissaries Lasgun

Im trying to figure out if the MJ's Lasgun is a Necromunda Pattern, because it certainly looks nearly identical to it. The Only War book doesnt really specify. Instead giving them a fairly generic Imperial Guard loadout kit, even listing their lasguns as "M36 Pattern", but that same listing is given to other regiments who are depicted as using lasguns that are vastly different in design. But I cant say for sure, due to lacking written sources. I do think that it would be incorrect as saying they use the M36, as that looks to have just been a place holder name for all Imperial Lasguns in the rule book. It even has Vostroyans as using the M36, when they use self-crafted lasguns. --TheNuclearSoldier (talk) 22:27, 20 April 2018 (MDT)

We do not even know what the "M36" precisely describes/ entails. It could just be some standard inner pieces with the rest adapted to local resources, who knows... --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum (talk) 11:05, 21 April 2018 (MDT)

I still think it is a place holder as the books writers didnt want to go into detail about the differences between different lasgun patterns used by different regiments. It even lists the Death Korps of Krieg's rifle as "M36" even tho they use Lucius no.98. As you can see on this very page it is a very separate and different pattern from most other types as it. They probably just wrote down "M36 Lasgun" as that is Cadian's standard weapon and Cadian like regiments are featured most prominently in the book (plus its the regiment most people are familiar with).--TheNuclearSoldier (talk) 20:45, 21 April 2018 (MDT)