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Just had a thought - if all the Marines of the Thousand Sons have been turned to dust, then so would their gene-seed. Therefore how on earth (or 'in the warp' as the case may be) can they replenish the numbers of the Thousand Sons? Any thoughts?--Jonru 19:58, 31 October 2007 (CET)

Not all of them have been turned to dust, only those with no or very weak psykic powers. I suppose that fallen in battle (in case of a "dust marine" -whatever) can be resurected again by the sorcerers, and that the gene-seed of the sorcerers is collected as standard. You should read the Space wolf novels. In the third novel Magnus the Red tries to create a stable Warp portal through which all of the Thousand Sons, "even the ones which had died allready" can enter an Imperial planet. Irulan 02:50, 1 November 2007 (CET)

The way i understood it, all the Thousand Sons were turned to dust - only those with the force of will (psykers) to retain thier personalities remained inderpendant - the others became mindless automitons. I might have that wrong, but that certainly seems to me to be the 'facts' according to the Index Astartes article.

Ok, I've taken the following out of the article:

In both instances Ragnar Blackmane defeated Madox and cast the spear into a partially manifested Magnus' and destroyed both him, and the spear.

Destroyed Magnus? Ragnar threw the spear into a partially manifested Magnus and destroyed him twice? I've replaced it with:

In this instance, Ragnar Blackmane defeated Madox and cast the spear into a partially manifested Magnus, destroying the spear.

Th232 16:00, 28 August 2008 (CEST)

why did the space wolves fight the thousand sons

i know that magnus the red never stopped using magic and became addicted to it but why if he used it to warn the imperium that the space wolves attacked them as if they tried to attack the imperium

The Space Wolves were ordered to attack the Thousand Sons because of Magnus' refusal to give up using psychic powers as he had been ordered to by the Emperor.--Jonru 11:47, 7 September 2008 (CEST)

The Emperor only wanted Russ to capture Magnus and bring him to the Emperor. Horus convinced Russ that Magnus needed to be destroyed not captured, knowing if Russ out right attacked The Thousand Sons then Magnus would side with Chaos.

Materials to be added upon template completion

Noted Elements of the Thousand Sons

Relics

Vessels

Noteable Members

Heresy Era

-Sergeants of the Thousand Sons-

Apophis - Command Squad
Hasani - Heavy Support Squad
Jafari - Tactical Support Squad
Khalid - Heavy Support Squad
Khalmekt - Tactical Squad
Menkaura - Assault Squad
Sekhmet - Terminator Squad
Sobek - Heavy Support Squad
Amensos - Heavy Support Squad
Lekmeht - Tactical Squad
Mekahta - Assault Squad
Tolbek - Tactical Squad
Post-Heresy

References will be included upon editing

Durability.

What is actually needed to kill a Tomb Marine? Is it enough to just puncture the armour with a single round, or do you need to destroy the whole suit? NTC3 10:33, 25 April 2011 (CEST)

Silver Towers

Silver Towers of Tzeentch are listed under Vessels which I dont believe is correct. I checked the given source, and it does state "The Silver Towers of the City of Light have been transfigured...into space-faring fortresses.", but I don't think it is correct to assume that these are the same thing as the Daemon Engine Silver Towers which are only around the size of super-heavy tanks, contain thrall wizards rather than lots of 1000 Sons and dont have space-trasvel mentioned at all in their background fluff. The Lemur 19:07, 10 March 2012 (CET)

The source given states that the Thousand Sons have vessels called Silver Towers. So unlink it from the epic article and create a new article. But consider that what you're essentially saying is that the space-faring Silver Towers of Tzeentch can't be Silver Towers of Tzeentch...because the models and rules made for the Epic games system only went up to superheavies. If they had made Silver Towers for BFG, I don't think we'd be having this discussion. What I would suggest is that the Silver Towers of Tzeentch article be updated with the info from the IA that talks about the ship-sized ones. You could make it clear that we can't be certain they are the same thing in the article.--Mob 19:44, 10 March 2012 (CET)
That was essentially what I meant. I wasn't suggesting that the Vessels entry should be removed from this article - just that it shouldsnt be linked to the Daemon Engine article, as they describe different things (albeit similar ones). The Lemur 20:41, 10 March 2012 (CET)
Ah, but are they different things? The sorcerous battle engines of the Thousand Sons crewed by thrall-wizards from the Planet of Sorcerers called Silver Towers (phew!) are different from the sorcerous space-transports of the Thousand Sons that're also called Silver Towers?  :)
Regardless, I guess that's fluff interpretation, which we don't do. Do what you think is best, obv. I'm merely suggesting that, rather than create a separate article and then disambig, a short paragraph in the Epic unit article saying something like "The Thousand Sons also possess spacefaring units called Silver Towers (cite), it is unknown if these have any connection to the daemon-engines also called Silver Towers" or whatever may be better.--Mob 20:57, 10 March 2012 (CET)
I'll probably just do that then. To be honest, the IA article doesn't specifically state that these vessels are called "Silver Towers" just that "The Silver Towers of the City of Light have been transfigured...into space-faring fortresses.", the silver towers bit could be regarded simply as a desctription of the architecture of Tizca. The Lemur 21:03, 10 March 2012 (CET)
Oh, totally, totally could be just that. Well, maybe not if that's how it's capitalised in the source. But, whilst I am both in favour of our strict rules and a follower of them, one simply has to be aware of not only common sense re: authorial intent, but also the interpretations of fluff that have been around for donkey's years, surely.--Mob 21:29, 10 March 2012 (CET)