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''Dalia Cythera, Guardian during the Horus Heresy, accidentally allowed a book containing the account of the Dragon to be taken from the Dragon's cavern. '''This book was later used to prove the Dragon is the Machine God and his Guardian, not the Emperor, is the Omnissiah.'''''
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Could you please tell me the exact place in the book where ''this'' is mentioned. It's not that long ago i read it, and, by all means, I only remember that it was mentioned that the removing of the book caused some (not further mentioned) actions set into motion which couldn't be unmade when the cave was visited the next time, 10k years later. Without exact explanation I will remove this statement from the article, because it doesn't match anything else. --[[User:Pack master|Pack_master, Großinquisitor des Ordo Lexicanum]] 22:13, 29 December 2008 (CET)

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What about the short story in in Codex Necrons where Abaddon looks at something hidden on mars, something surrounded by necrons

Possible proof of Necron/C'tan worlds in the galaxy. Evidence for C'tan existance on Mars.

I apologise if this has been raised before just thought it was worth noting. On page 15 of the newest Eldar codex (4th Edition?) there is a map of the galaxy indicating the positions of Eldar Craftworlds and the like. It also seems to indicate the positions of 10 different C'tan/Necron worlds and/or constructs.

Pavonis is highlighted (tomb world of The Nightbringer, setting of Nightbringer novel). Naogeddon is also shown (highlighted on similar map at the end of Codex: Necrons as possible tomb world). At the bottom left of the map Hive fleet Leviathan is shown with a gaping hole in it, inside is something labelled 'Lyriax'. This being the position of the Dyson sphere the Outsider supposedly resides in, could this possibly be a name for the construct? All of these known Necron tomb worlds etc are given a specific symbol on the map.

What interested me was that Mars is also signified with this same symbol. This could be proof that Mars is a C'tan/Necron tomb world and proof of the existence of a C'tan beneath it's surface. Also of note is that there are 10 of these symbols on the map, all named - possible names of all C'tan/Necron worlds.

Just thought that this was of interest, a possible addition to the Void Dragon, C'tan and Tomb world pages. Just wanted to know what you thought.

Sounds interesting. I don't have the codex so I can't really comment but I don't think that just because it is a tomb world it has a C'tan. As for Lyriax, maybe it was a maiden world or something like that originally but was actually a Necron world?--Jonru 20:55, 26 March 2007 (CEST) [Brother Bethor- Lyriax as it's called has the same position as the unidentified object on the map at the back of the Necron Codex, the object has a diametar of over 1AU (orbit of the Earth) making a Dyson Sphere. Perhaps there is a maiden world trapped within it? I feel sorry for any Eldar trapped for eternity with psycho C'tan. :)]
This does sound interesting... I'm in the middle of reading The Ultramarines Omnibus, and I'lkeep my opens especially open, lol. I only have the 3rd edition Eldar Codex also... --PSYCO

Dyson Spheres

Dyson Spheres are not part of Warhammer 40,000. They have nothing to do with Warhammer. If there is a dead world, or some sphere, it is not a Dyson. Dysons are from a completely different set of science fiction. The whole concept was fan fluff. SanchiTachi 21:54, 28 June 2007 (CEST)

The Warhammer 40,000 Universe borrows from a vast array of other works that span different genres. Paying homage to different theories, media and other science fiction works. The Dyson Sphere is a hypothetical megastructure in the same vein as a Ringworld created by Freeman Dyson.

The concept of a Dyson sphere is a structure meant to completely encompass a star and capture its entire energy output, the most commonly referenced distance between the surface of a Dyson sphere and the star it encompasses is roughly the distance of the Earth to the sun. The page I referred to (using a different login now) in the Necron codex highlights an unidentified celestial object. This object has a radius of just over 1 atomic unit (1.04 AU). An atomic unit is the average distance between the Earth and the Sun, ie the radius of our planets orbit. Therefore the object rivals the greatest of red supergiants in magnitude and from its lack of luminosity is evidently not a star. The only logical conclusion is that it is a Dyson sphere or similar object.

I'm still not sure how you can say that a Dyson sphere cannot exist in the Warhammer 40,000 universe because it is already encompassed in another brand of science fiction. You say 'some sphere' as if the Dyson sphere is just one type of sphere like structure, it is not. The term Dyson sphere is the name for such a structure in lieu of its creator. Of course there are varients, the Dyson swarm, Dyson bubble and ringworld concepts but none of them are spheres and as such are not this example. Arkturas

Don't worry about this any more, that user doesn't come here any more.--Jonru 17:27, 2 November 2007 (CET)

Novel Mechanicum

Dalia Cythera, Guardian during the Horus Heresy, accidentally allowed a book containing the account of the Dragon to be taken from the Dragon's cavern. This book was later used to prove the Dragon is the Machine God and his Guardian, not the Emperor, is the Omnissiah.

Could you please tell me the exact place in the book where this is mentioned. It's not that long ago i read it, and, by all means, I only remember that it was mentioned that the removing of the book caused some (not further mentioned) actions set into motion which couldn't be unmade when the cave was visited the next time, 10k years later. Without exact explanation I will remove this statement from the article, because it doesn't match anything else. --Pack_master, Großinquisitor des Ordo Lexicanum 22:13, 29 December 2008 (CET)