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In the Blood Ravens Omnibus, third book (which I am ashamed to admit having read), Ahriman is described as a being whose face cannot be seen. Like a haze that overrides any features that could be noted. Anyone else want to second this or are we in universal agreement that these details are to be left out? --Lygris 15:29, 8 September 2008 (CEST)

I personally don't count anything C.S. Goto has made to be "canon", I vote to leave it out as no other author has written about Post-Heresy Ahriman than C.S. Goto. Unless a new Horus Heresy or present-40k book make a similar claim, I'd leave it out. Another description Goto mentioned was that Ahriman's eyes were replaced with some sort of bluish warp-fire, I can see that being an effect of the Rubric, but I still say leave anything C.S. Goto has made out of any descriptions. --Cowgeneral 23:41, 1st June 2010 (Central). [Kind of late on the response aren't I]

There is no voting. If it is published by Black Library it's official. --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum 08:50, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Alright, sorry about that. Thank you for the clarification, I didn't know that was the general ruling due to some book content being subtly or not so subtly revised in later books such as the Inquisition War "Star Child" theory and "Illuminati" being declared void. (Correct me if I'm wrong) As well as the large gap in writing ability between the myriad authors that work in Black Library Publishing. --Cowgeneral 20:08, 8th June 2010 (Central).

Cites 3b and 4

I'll try and find some sort of specific for those, but the text that references them is pretty much describing the plot of the entire sources rather than an exact point...certainly in the case of Tempest, perhaps less arguably in Atlas Infernal. I've taken off the 'needs cite' template for now because I think they stand up to logical research as they are, but I'll see about making them more exact. I've added a needs cite to the Daemonifuge source, as while I've read it, I can't remember where exactly the cited text takes place, and it's not the plot of the entire comic series. Thanks.--Mob 16:33, 12 May 2012 (CEST)

Reworded slightly and added a cite 4a to make the Atlas Infernal reference more specific. Thanks.--Mob 17:15, 12 May 2012 (CEST)


I'm trying to find out when was the exact moment when TS armour colours changed from red/white to blue/gold. In carefully reading this entry, I noticed the following:

The last paragraph of the "Fall" reads: and to recieve one last gift: "...as Magnus fell, he transmitted a huge burst of his own aetheric power into Ahriman, using the Chief Librarian as a psychic and sorcerous conduit to all the surviving legionaries. Used as a vessel for Magnus' great spell, Ahzek Ahriman and all the other Thousand Sons vanished from Prospero."

This implies that Magnus died during the event.

The 3rd and 4th paragraphs of the "Heretic" read:

"Ahriman was a veteran Thousand Son from before the coming of Magnus the Red, and Ahriman's revulsion at the corruption of the Legion was so great that even the terrible price of reversing it was not too high.[2] Magnus was not of like mind, however. So great was his wrath when the cabal was discovered that the Primarch threatened to obliterate them utterly, but the very patron who had worked the mutations upon them in the first place was said to have intervened"

Which suggests Magnus was angry with Ahriman for making the legionaries into rubric marines. If he [and the rest of the TS] had already turned to Chaos, why would he care? If anything, serving under Tzeench, this change should have appeased him. --b00geyman 13:07, 21 September 2012 (AEST)

Ahriman: Exile explicitly says the Thousand Sons are still running around in the red/gold scheme. No exact date is given for the events of the book, but it's definitely post-Heresy, post-Rubric, and obliquely during the early days of the Inquisition, as Ahriman sees their symbol and doesn't recognise it. Magnus was angry with Ahriman because the Rubric essentially undid all the work and suffering he endured to ensure the Legion's survival. The Rubric effectively "killed" the majority of the Legion. Gnostiko 23:42, 11 May 2014 (CEST)

Edit suggestions

Just a couple of factual inconsistencies;

Ahriman's Heqa staff (which is incorrectly spelled 'Hequa') is not the Black Staff. Ahriman: Exile identifies them as two different weapons.

Don't have my copy of ATS to hand, but I'm pretty sure the wheels-and-eyes spectral being isn't Aetpio, but Ahriman's subtle body, as that is the exact description given in Thief of Revelations. That or it's both!

Gnostiko 23:47, 11 May 2014 (CEST)