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Removed http://ironhands.com/chapters.htm as it is a non-GW link. It is a very good site, just not an official GW site. --Rlyehable 03:04, 19 February 2007 (CET)


Heroes of the Space Marines new info

- In the book, the story "Renegades" is about the Avenging Sons. They speak of Roboute Guilliman's writings, so they could be an Ultrramarines offshoot.

Or not. No speculation please. --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum 08:18, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Primaris Chapter

Per the novel Dark Imperium, there is now an Avenging Sons Primaris Chapter, created at the Pit of Raukos at the end of the Indomitus Crusade.

This Primaris Chapter is given a home world, Callimachus, within Greater Ultramar, which is the old Five Hundred Worlds. It's one of the ten Chapters Guilliman sets up within the reformed Ultramar Realm. The only non-Primaris Chapters are the Ultramarines and Scythes of the Emperor.

I only have an ebook, so the best source I can cite is Chapter 20, 567.7/690. Here's the full quote though:

‘My concerns that a single Chapter could not protect the Five Hundred worlds remain valid,’ said Guilliman. ‘I have therefore decided to station eight new Chapters of Space Marines – created recently at Raukos – within the bounds of Greater Ultramar. Along with the Ultramarines, and the Scythes of the Emperor, whose territories fall within the fourth tetra, there will be henceforth ten full Chapters to defend this realm.’

This provoked a noisy reaction. Guilliman ignored it, and carried on.

‘Work will be immediately undertaken to rebuild the Scythes of the Emperor with Primaris Space Marines. They will have responsibility for protection of what is currently the Sotharan League. Here, at Callimachus, we shall base the Avenging Sons Chapter, and at Howsbridge the Praetors of Ultramar shall have their home–’ The murmuring broke out into audible protests.


Avenging Sons Destroyed then rebuilt?

With the Primaris Avenging Sons existing, should we consider the First Born Chapter destroyed? All the stories that exist have their companies either turn traitor/renegade or annihilated. --Henryjones000 (talk) 15:15, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

If there is no official source saying explicitly that it is like that: no. We don't "consider", "assume", "presume" or anything else in that direction. --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum (talk) 19:12, 29 November 2020 (UTC)