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Is it true that the Iron Hands have a different approach to using Sergeants? That instead of using regular sergeants, each Sergeant has the right to wear Terminator armor in a squad of regular Astartes? --Lygris 00:16, 10 September 2008 (CEST)

I'm pretty sure this isn't the only chapter that does this, but you never know... --Rye 01:51, 10 September 2008 (CEST)

I would say that either came from an IA article or from the traits given to them in Codex SM4. I'll have a look.--Jonru 10:18, 10 September 2008 (CEST)

Chapter Master

I noticed looking through the 5th edition codex that Iron hands do now have a Chapter Master according to the background. He's only mentioned in a quote on p77 (concerning Razorbacks) but his name is Kardan Stronos. How this squares with the background given in Index Astartes i dont know but it is an interesting development to be sure Dr Death 10:21, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

Chances are that the old one is dead, it happens all the time, the Dark Angels have changed a lot of company captains in the last 3 Codices. In which case, the later resource defines the most up to date information. --Madness 20:17, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
So should the part about the Iron Hands not having a Chapter Master be deleted? Leonnatus 23:05, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

Steel Confessors

Steel Confessors are pritty clear descendant of Iron Hands, so why to remove it? Gesmana 05:28, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

"Pretty clear" does not exist. Either there's a source saying so or not. --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum 06:48, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Forgechain

The concept of this chain is not clear to me from reading the text. Is it one chain per Space Marine? If so why would a Space Marine join another Clan-company? Very muddy somehow. --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum (talk) 13:53, 14 April 2019 (MDT)

Chaplains

Why are there Chaplains in the chapter disposition if before the text says there are no chaplains? --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum (talk) 14:17, 14 April 2019 (MDT)

Notable Members

This list is just one BIG mess and has to be sorted either alphabetically by last name or by rank. --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum (talk) 14:35, 14 April 2019 (MDT)

Also: Not everybody in that damn list is "notable", that is way too overcrowded. FFS there are even failed neophytes in there! --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum (talk) 14:39, 14 April 2019 (MDT)
Agreed. Known Members of the Iron Hands exists as a separate article for a reason. KazilDarkeye (talk) 14:52, 14 April 2019 (MDT)

Ignatius Numen

Sentences like "*[[Ignatius Numen]]: [[Morlock]]{{Fn|18}} and [[Horus Heresy]]{{Fn|28}} and was also a member of the Legion's elite Morlocks.{{Fn|27a}}" make me want to interrogate people. Very slowly. And deliberately. --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum (talk) 14:48, 14 April 2019 (MDT)

Successor Chapters

This article definitely needs a paragraph on the IH successor chapters. There also a reference to the "Steel Confessors" should be included. --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum (talk) 02:09, 21 April 2019 (MDT)

Known members

The transfer operation of less important IHs to their proper place is not yet finished. --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum (talk) 02:12, 28 May 2019 (MDT)

@Inquisitor S . So i noticed that you trimmed down the "not-so-important" Characters list in 2019... which were readded later by another senior editor. Since those problematic listings (because they list characters who have 1-parapraph articles) appear in every major chapters articles, and i got picked on for doing the same thing you did in 2019, might we have some sort of global discussion and ruling around that issue ? --Siegfriedfr (talk) 15:38, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
So who added them back? We can have a discussion but I thought the difference between "known" and "notable" members was clear and that articles should not be overloaded... --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum (talk) 11:11, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
Not snitching. Apparently it wasn't clear the last time. I intended to trim down all the main chapters pages of not-relevant characters, but was accused of "removing content" from the lexicanum when i attempted it... Might be the Black templars page (that i used as test-bed), but i dont remember where the discussion took place. --Siegfriedfr (talk) 17:43, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
I see... omerta! The accusation of content "removal" is obviously preposterous, it is not removed, just moved to a better place, i.e. its own article. And while some people apparently want to die on the hill that articles should be as long as possible from a didactic and technical point of view this is nonsense. Nevertheless I don't think we can put an iron-cast number on how many characters (or units or whatever) should be counted as "Notable" as this will differ. Anyway maybe we should change the heading to "Most notable" to be even clearer. So what other criteria would make sense instead of a specific number? I was thinking of sth like must be either a playable character (own rules) or protagonist in his/her own novel/novella etc. Better ideas? Additional suggestions? --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum (talk) 16:33, 29 November 2023 (UTC)