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Distinction

I would suggest making a distinction between those chapters that are just Renegade and those who serve Chaos. Examples:

  • Tiger Claws were renegade until they turned to Chaos, at that point they became Chaos Space Marines.
  • Soul Drinkers became renegade when they turned their back on the Imperium. They later turned to Chaos Space Marines, and then later back to Renegade space marines when they rejected Chaos.

While Chaos Space Marines are technically 'Renegade', I would prefer to keep the classifications seperate.
If we keep 'Renegade Chapters' inclusive, then we need to add the Chaos Legions and create a separate section for non-Chaos renegades and/or Chaos renegades.
--Rlyehable 14:34, 9 June 2007 (CEST)

I think we also need to make a distinction between Chaos Chapters and Chaos Warbands. A good example would be the Flawless Host and Claws of Lorek, which are small Warbands made of up members of the Emperor's Children and Astral Claws respectivily, compared to the Sons of Malice, who are a Chapter that has turned to chaos.--ShockMox 22:14, 16 June 2008 (CEST)

The last addition made by User:Knight-of-nurgle seems to be non-canon and something fan made! --Dorle 08:28, 23 June 2008 (CEST)

I think we should distinct between Chaos Warbands (Chaos Legions + Chaos Chapters + their splinter-factions) and Renegade Chapters (Chaos Chapters + Unaligned Chapters). The term "Chapter" is somewhat misleading for some armies listed here since not all Chaos Space Marines in the Codex are given imperial origins (The Sanctified), if they are given an origin at all (Disciplines of Destruction), or are still operating as Chapters (Damned Company of Lord Caustos). --Digganob 19:47, 9 January 2009 (CET)

They should just be named "Renegade Space Marines" then. --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum 15:37, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

"New" Renegades

In Legion of the Damned by Rob Sanders, there are three Renegade Chapters devoted to Khorne that are mentioned. The Goremongers, the Sanguine Sons, the Blood Storm, the Red Heralds, the Brazen Guard and the Angels Apocrypha, listed on page 334. The Goremongers have rust-red armor listed on page 333. The Angels Apocrypha look exactly alike with deathly pale skin that contrasted with their "sable blood-filth of their patched and studded plate." They also have rapier-like swords that crackle with dark energy and they moved with vampiric speed and appetite. The descriptions of the Angels Apocrypha are on page 335. Also, the Thunder Barons and the Cleaved are mentioned as devotees of Khorne on page 334. Thunder Barons were reiterated as devotees of Khorne on page 349. And the Skulltakers are described as a Renegade Chapter on page 334 and 349, not a World Eaters warband. I put this here because the other list of Renegade warbands doesn't have a discussion page and it redirects here. Arkhar 07:08, 14 May 2012 (CEST)