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I made a page describing miniatures made involving Black Library based characters, or discussing the connection between Black Library and the Warhammer 40,000 game at [[Black Library gaming]]. There were quite a few limited edition miniatures and it didn't seem like there was much info on them. It definately fits in with this portal. [[User:SanchiTachi|SanchiTachi]] 08:03, 29 May 2007 (CEST)
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Hello,
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So I "think" I finalized a major clean up of this section over a period of 3 months.
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I'll write down the philosophy of it and its benefits.
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* This type of gallery presentation of all the 40k miniatures doesn't exist anywhere else (to my knowledge) on the web, and should be preserved.
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* Prior to working on it [2022] , this section had rather bad press on the web (Reddit, dakka,bolter...), with people criticizing the unreliability of it and otherwise advising people not to trust it, which was counter-intuitive to the lexicanum being the major referencing wiki about 40k in general, but not about the miniatures.
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;The tools used were :
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** white dwarf magazines to source releases and find oldhammer pictures
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** catalogues/collector's guides to identify the range of miniatures trough time
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** Codexes and rulebooks for some outliers, altho those are rather unreliable to source release dates, and '''they also contain a healthy dose of misleading conversions'''
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;Design principles I applied :
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* Separating specialist games and Horus Heresy from the 40k minis, in order to make the editor experience easier, and the user experience better.
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* Only leaving officially released kits/blisters. That leaves out conversions, kitbashes, different paintjobs for the same model/unit... Basically anything that is redundant, or tricks the reader into thinking that a "conversion" was released
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* Adding a "context" subtitle in the form of
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** a Codex release when available
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** the year of release when there was no event
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*** And the month when there might be contentious about it (for example, a unit appears in a codex in year X, but was first seen in a white dwarf during Year X-1)
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* Correct or update the source/the description when updating/moving any image
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** Correct and update the pages where said images are used for consistant trough the wiki
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* Archive the webstore and Warhammer community pages. Every time. To this end downloading the webarchive add-on/pluggin (chromium browsers) helps ALOT.
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;Images
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* Square images are the best solution for consistency trough the wiki, and works better with the "packed" gallery mode
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* Cropping is good. Excessive cropping is bad.
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**The base should be entirely visible (except for aircrafts)
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**A model should be given some room to breath : A few millimeters of nothing between the model and the image borders does alot for a better presentation
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--[[User:Siegfriedfr|Siegfriedfr]] ([[User talk:Siegfriedfr|talk]]) 12:05, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
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==Citations==
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::I agree the citation footnote thing is fairly annoying, it should be at the top or bottom of the article if anything. really the only holdout on this is inquisitor-S, you should take it up with him [[User:Harriticus|Harriticus]] ([[User talk:Harriticus|talk]]) 14:40, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
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:::the top would really destroy the convenience of the pages. i'll wait for him to join the discussion, i have one idea about that --[[User:Siegfriedfr|Siegfriedfr]] ([[User talk:Siegfriedfr|talk]]) 16:43, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
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::Also the {{Cite this}} tag wouldn't be needed if people, you know, cited the images. :) [[User:KazilDarkeye|KazilDarkeye]] ([[User talk:KazilDarkeye|talk]]) 14:48, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
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::On a serious, not-nitpicking note though, I do appreciate the work you put into this.[[User:KazilDarkeye|KazilDarkeye]] ([[User talk:KazilDarkeye|talk]]) 14:48, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
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==Page title formatting==
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::One brief nitpick I have for now is that [[Miniatures (Dark Angels)|the Dark Angels miniatures page]] has a differently-formatted pagename by default compared to the others. That's slightly irritating. Some of the other miniatures pages also have this problem. [[User:KazilDarkeye|KazilDarkeye]] ([[User talk:KazilDarkeye|talk]]) 14:43, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
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::: i noticed that at some point, [[User:Inquisitor S.]] reformatted most miniature pages' titles. since i don't know the how's and why's, it's best to ask him --[[User:Siegfriedfr|Siegfriedfr]] ([[User talk:Siegfriedfr|talk]]) 16:43, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

Revision as of 07:09, 2 March 2022

Hello,

So I "think" I finalized a major clean up of this section over a period of 3 months. I'll write down the philosophy of it and its benefits.

  • This type of gallery presentation of all the 40k miniatures doesn't exist anywhere else (to my knowledge) on the web, and should be preserved.
  • Prior to working on it [2022] , this section had rather bad press on the web (Reddit, dakka,bolter...), with people criticizing the unreliability of it and otherwise advising people not to trust it, which was counter-intuitive to the lexicanum being the major referencing wiki about 40k in general, but not about the miniatures.
The tools used were 
    • white dwarf magazines to source releases and find oldhammer pictures
    • catalogues/collector's guides to identify the range of miniatures trough time
    • Codexes and rulebooks for some outliers, altho those are rather unreliable to source release dates, and they also contain a healthy dose of misleading conversions
Design principles I applied 
  • Separating specialist games and Horus Heresy from the 40k minis, in order to make the editor experience easier, and the user experience better.
  • Only leaving officially released kits/blisters. That leaves out conversions, kitbashes, different paintjobs for the same model/unit... Basically anything that is redundant, or tricks the reader into thinking that a "conversion" was released
  • Adding a "context" subtitle in the form of
    • a Codex release when available
    • the year of release when there was no event
      • And the month when there might be contentious about it (for example, a unit appears in a codex in year X, but was first seen in a white dwarf during Year X-1)
  • Correct or update the source/the description when updating/moving any image
    • Correct and update the pages where said images are used for consistant trough the wiki
  • Archive the webstore and Warhammer community pages. Every time. To this end downloading the webarchive add-on/pluggin (chromium browsers) helps ALOT.
Images
  • Square images are the best solution for consistency trough the wiki, and works better with the "packed" gallery mode
  • Cropping is good. Excessive cropping is bad.
    • The base should be entirely visible (except for aircrafts)
    • A model should be given some room to breath : A few millimeters of nothing between the model and the image borders does alot for a better presentation

--Siegfriedfr (talk) 12:05, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

Citations

I agree the citation footnote thing is fairly annoying, it should be at the top or bottom of the article if anything. really the only holdout on this is inquisitor-S, you should take it up with him Harriticus (talk) 14:40, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
the top would really destroy the convenience of the pages. i'll wait for him to join the discussion, i have one idea about that --Siegfriedfr (talk) 16:43, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
Also the [Needs Citation] tag wouldn't be needed if people, you know, cited the images. :) KazilDarkeye (talk) 14:48, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
On a serious, not-nitpicking note though, I do appreciate the work you put into this.KazilDarkeye (talk) 14:48, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

Page title formatting

One brief nitpick I have for now is that the Dark Angels miniatures page has a differently-formatted pagename by default compared to the others. That's slightly irritating. Some of the other miniatures pages also have this problem. KazilDarkeye (talk) 14:43, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
i noticed that at some point, User:Inquisitor S. reformatted most miniature pages' titles. since i don't know the how's and why's, it's best to ask him --Siegfriedfr (talk) 16:43, 22 February 2022 (UTC)