Talk:Squat
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contradiction
this article is confused. First it states that in canon the tyranids ate the squats, then it says that in canon "the squats never existed". Which is it?! --Obscured 16:59, 27 June 2008 (CEST)
- Officially they were retconned out of the fluff, the tyranid-thingy is not really official AFAIK. --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum 17:56, 27 June 2008 (CEST)
So It's True...?
The very last bit about the Squat sources bugs the hell out of me. Is it true that the moderators would ban and delete the thread? Were they trying to squash the existence of the Squats by removing any information about them that links to the GW sites? --Lygris 22:22, 24 September 2008 (CEST)
- I'm not sure. I hadn't visited those forums for some time before they closed (and didn't know they had closed until I tried to go back to them a couple of months ago).
- When I was active on them, mention of Squats wasn't completely banned, but there was very little you could ask or say about them without incuring the displeasure of the admins (you could for example safely ask or answer the question "What were Squats?", or tell people that you had your own Squat homepage or forum, but not much else.
- Whether or not they got even stricter after I left, I don't know.
- IIRC, the reason why they banned discussion of Squats (or at least the reason they gave) was that they were not going to bring them back, at all, ever, and they were fed up with people bugging them about it. Which to be honest, I think is a stupid reason for censoring the boards, but that's what the mods there were like, which was one of the reasons I stopped using the forums. (Discusing model prices, or saying anything that was in any way critical of Games Workshop was also strictly prohibited).
- Iapetus 20:59, 5 January 2009 (CET)
They are in 6ed rulebook!
The Squats are mentioned, with the correct latin name, at the Sixth edition rulebook Appendices, under the heading of Abhumans. I do not have the book right at hand, so could someone look it up and add to the page. Quite bold move from GW. Dige 3 July 2012
- Do they have own rules, like the Ratlings, or are they just mentioned background-wise? When the Squats were killed off, it was mentioned, that Squat-miniatures were still valid, but only as proxy for other Imperial Guard. --DetlefK 16:01, 3 July 2012 (CEST)
- All I have hear and seen so far (it is out since June 29, meaning it would be extremely surprising anything else comes up now): it's this one mention. No rules or anything like that. --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum 19:57, 3 July 2012 (CEST)
- From the Lexicanum point of view, the new info in the 6th edition doesnt really change anything. GW never actually removed the Squats from the background fluff - they just removed them as a playable race by letting the Tyranids eat them. Whether there are rules for them isn't relevant to the Lexi unless said rules gave new background info. The Lemur 22:23, 3 July 2012 (CEST)
- Yes an no. We also have "Note" or "Trivia" sections to inform readers of "out-of-universe" occurences. --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum 11:32, 8 July 2012 (CEST)
Image list for later use
- Rulebook 2nd ed pg 26, 57
- Dark Millennium pg. 12
- Dark Millennium models pg. 49
- Battle Manual (1992) pg. 22/ inner back cover
Squat worlds under direct imperial rule
There are mentions of Squat-Imperium relations in the Codex: Imperial Guard (2nd Edition), pg. 8
- In the early Imperium, the Inquisition conducted DNA screening on newly discovered human worlds, eradicating abhuman populations and resettling the planets.
- Only later were abhumans accepted as human and integrated.
- There are no Squat Stronghold planets in the Imperium anymore, the last of them seceded during the Age of Apostasy.
Orsay (talk) 20:15, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
- The page has now been un-protected and can therefore be accordingly edited. --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum (talk) 10:38, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
The Kin
I see the word Squat is being used liberally in the new Votann-related articles out of historical habit.
It seems the naming of the "Squat" is being replaced by "The Kin" as far as Lore is concerned.
- A secretive people in a galaxy full of mortal threats, the Kin
- And while those nasty Necromundans still call them Squats, that’s not at all how they refer to themselves. These warriors have a long and proud martial history, and to those who aren’t on their bad side, they’re known as the Leagues of Votann – though they refer to themselves as Kin
It is my opinion, that i'm opening for discussion, there should be a clearer distinction between the "Squat" as a Rogue Trader faction between 1987-1993, and "The Kin" as a 40k faction from 2022 onwards.
I propose there should be a brand new article about "The Kin", and that the "Squat" as an article should remain an historical study, separated from what GW is gonna do with the Space Dwarfs from now on.
This would serve the double purpose of referring to this particular faction as it is named by GW from now on trough internal links, and keep the Historical drama tied to the Squat faction in its own bubble article.
--Siegfriedfr (talk) 17:54, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
