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Welcome to Warhammer 40k - Lexicanum! We hope you will contribute much and well. You will probably want to read the [Lexicanum:Help help pages]. Again, welcome and have fun! Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum (talk) 09:59, 7 October 2018 (MDT)

Redirects

The audio books and the short stories are two physically different products (one is a CD/mp3/ audio, the other a print product (or ebook, too?)). Therefore it should presumably be discussed if they should be described in one or more articles. For example other books were turned into abridged and unabridged audiobooks with different contents... --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum (talk) 11:54, 29 October 2018 (MDT)

Sure, thanks for pointing that out. I think you're referring to (for example) me redirecting The Lightning Tower (Audio Book) to The Lightning Tower (Short Story). In that case, we don't really have any information that differentiates between the audio and the short story. If anyone wants to add some, they can expand the redirect to a full article. Reasonable? Bobmath (talk) 12:03, 29 October 2018 (MDT)
I guess it is partly reasonable ;) Nevertheless I felt like raising the issue just so that we know what we do. I think (should be verified) that for example Wikipedia handles it like this: If a literary work is the main and original "product" the article deals with this book (or whatever form it has) and then simply lists the different other media the work was turned into in the same article. And for example if a major movie was done based on the book it gets its own article. BUT the thing is also that we (should) have list articles for example about audiobooks and then I am not so sure anymore if a separate article for the audio "derivative" of a book shouldn't have its own article as somebody wanting to read up on the short story might not be terribly interested in technical details of the audio production such as voice actors, formats etc.? That is a bit the problem of making a mix between a background but also a product wiki...--Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum (talk) 12:21, 29 October 2018 (MDT)

Blackstone Fortress miniatures

Since you seem to be the main guy uploading images and I don't know if anybody notice my comment on the talk page here's the links to the images for every Blackstone Fortress miniatures directly from the WH40K website.

These images should have a better resolution and less artefacts than the images(with transparent background) you currently have.--Ashendant (talk) 12:15, 27 November 2018 (MST)

Thanks for pointing that out. The images from warhammer-community.com have generally better resolution, but not everything is present there. I'll take a look at them. Bobmath (talk) 12:20, 27 November 2018 (MST)

PAGENAME

PAGENAME is a usable tool-key that save you from mistakes when creating new articles based on the text from the old ones. Don't needed to change it everywhere.--Darkelf77 (talk) 11:23, 8 December 2018 (MST)

Using PAGENAME outside of templates is silly and results in badly worded sentences when the page is dabbed. I will scrub it out wherever I find it. Bobmath (talk) 11:26, 8 December 2018 (MST)
It's silly to try to change them all. There are really a lot of such using in articles and people who will create new articles will still add this tool.--Darkelf77 (talk) 11:36, 8 December 2018 (MST)
Which is why I'm only fixing them when I have something else to change on the page. You people need to learn to use commas properly. Bobmath (talk) 11:39, 8 December 2018 (MST)
And a lot of everything else, yes :) Especially it concerns me, fe in gramma and such things. So the fixing is generally welcome.--Darkelf77 (talk) 11:48, 8 December 2018 (MST)
FYI, if you're creating a page and want to autoinsert the pagename without leaving a little turd behind, you can use {{subst:PAGENAME}} Bobmath (talk) 10:29, 11 December 2018 (MST)
Then I (and possibly all other Adepts) just didn't know about that difference between {{subst:PAGENAME}} and {{PAGENAME}} and thought that {{PAGENAME}} just copies the name of the article and not appeal to some Template. Seems you are right. I'll try to use it when will create a new articles based on the old ones. For example - for planets.--Darkelf77 (talk) 11:59, 11 December 2018 (MST)
It's a general mechanism that works with any template. Kind of obscure. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Substitution Bobmath (talk) 12:16, 11 December 2018 (MST)

About Anthologies

Proposition. Wouldn’t it be better to leave '(Short Story)', '(Novella)' and '(Novel)' in the lists of works included in the anthology? Thus, it is immediately clear which work exactly which form each book belongs to. Now we must bring mouse cursor over every subject to find out (for example to find novella between the list where a lot of short stories). I certainly do not insist, but it seems to me that it was more convenient.--Darkelf77 (talk) 02:55, 23 December 2018 (MST)

Also It would be good to hear the views of other adepts of Lexicanum...--Darkelf77 (talk) 03:06, 23 December 2018 (MST)
I agree with Darkelf77 on both points. --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum (talk) 04:38, 23 December 2018 (MST)
Yes, I thought about that. I ended up taking the dabs off because I thought they looked a bit messy, but I suppose you're right. Bobmath (talk) 08:45, 23 December 2018 (MST)

Titan Legions template(s)

Hi there. I noticed you have been removing the existing templates from the Titan Legion pages. Any particular reason for that? Thanks for getting back to me on that. Cheers! --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum (talk) 12:58, 1 March 2019 (MST)

Not sure what you mean. This type of edit? The Legion pages had no template, just ad-hoc table formatting. Where there was useful information in the table, I reformatted it into a template. Where the table was basically empty, I just removed it. Or maybe you were referring to something else? Bobmath (talk) 13:14, 1 March 2019 (MST)
.Yes, I meant table, mental slip of the tongue. Tables like that were introduced originally to give similar pages a uniform layout. So that one always could see the most important info at a glance. And if info was missing at the time, well, one could immediately see that for example it was/is not known what the homeworld was/ is. What is the advantage of getting rid of the table? --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum (talk) 13:41, 1 March 2019 (MST)
I didn't think a table full of Unknowns was adding anything to the page except visual noise. But if you think it's a good thing to have, I can easily go through and add a template to all the Titan Legions. Bobmath (talk) 14:02, 1 March 2019 (MST)
I kinda like for example the boxes in Wikipedia that give me one-glance overview. If you feel like it, a nice template could be useful. --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum (talk) 14:11, 1 March 2019 (MST)
Looking over the Legio pages, it seems that I removed some infoboxes in cases where I probably shouldn't have, so thanks for bringing this up. I also changed the template so it will float over to the right if there are no images. I think this reduces clutter on the page, but if you don't like the inconsistency, I'll change it back. Bobmath (talk) 15:33, 1 March 2019 (MST)
  • I think perhaps the Knight Houses articles could use the same treatment - I believe a bunch of those had tables that were removed, too. KazilDarkeye (talk) 15:57, 1 March 2019 (MST)
    • Ah, good idea. Bobmath (talk) 16:27, 1 March 2019 (MST)
Could you please link to one of those floating template examples? Thanks. And I agree that probably Knight Houses are a good category to expand such a treatment to. --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum (talk) 04:25, 3 March 2019 (MST)
Legio Absolutium, House AdamantBobmath (talk) 09:55, 3 March 2019 (MST)
Thanks. Not super-enthusiastic about the way portal template and Legio/House template look spatially in relation to each other. I wonder if they can be somehow integrated into each other? --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum (talk) 14:51, 3 March 2019 (MST)
Every portal/infobox combo looks similar. Bobmath (talk) 16:17, 3 March 2019 (MST)

Still doesn't look ideal, even if it affects all templates ;) --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum (talk) 03:12, 4 March 2019 (MST)

Image edits/ Category

Heya, your addition of the categories is appreciated. Just wanted to let you know that I did not forget to add them, just working batch wise on them as the stupid upload template doesn't let me add the category directly where it should go (=at the bottom). Cheers. --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum (talk) 13:56, 18 March 2019 (MDT)

No worries. Doesn't really matter that much where the categories go on image pages, but yes, the upload template isn't ideal. Bobmath (talk) 08:57, 19 March 2019 (MDT)
I do know that from a technical point of view the exact placement of the category is of minor importance, but my bureaucrat's eye starts twitching when things are not where I think they should be. And since in the beginning when we did not have those fields to fill they always went to the bottom... ;) --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum (talk) 10:56, 19 March 2019 (MDT)