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Again tabletop gameplay in fluff. I thought from back in the start that it was going to be seperated.

Paint Schemes

Where did you find these great lookin paint schemes?...btw...you should get this quality stuf for atleast all of the 1st(includeing the chaos) and 2nd foundings...


Information needs tied to sources. Additional sources may need to be listed. --Rlyehable 11:54, 19 February 2007 (CET)


Isn't this a Blood Angel Symbol on the shoulder pad? --Inquisitor S. 14:35, 19 February 2007 (CET)

Fleet Disposition

Hi, I'm new here, so thought I'd ask before acting:

What's the source for the 3 Dark Angels' battle barges? Another, the Vinco Redemptor under Interrogator-Chaplain Vargas, features in Sons of Fenris. --Elethiomel 23:39, 20 March 2007 (CET)

Colors of Dark Angels

Regarding the Heraldry colours of the Dark Angels. I've read at a website:

That Lion El'Johnson himself ordered the heraldry colours to be changed. Because they couldn't be the Emperors Pretorian Guards, or something like that. Lion El'Johnson ordered the heraldry colours to be changed to Caliban Green, the colors of there homeworld.

If this is true, which I'm not sure about, we would still need a verified source to put it in the article otherwise we can't be sure it is true and not fan made. If you know a source then excellent, otherwise it needs one before we add it :)--Jonru 17:33, 10 August 2008 (CEST)
I'm looking for the source. Emporio


Angels of Darkness makes this explanation of the Dark Angels seem overly simplified. Specifically with regard to the Lion's actions wrt terran marines and Asetlan's accusations. Do you all have any opinions on this? if not, I'll update the page appropriately.


Yes, I do. The points of view expressed by characters in "Angels of Darkness", namely Astelan, are suspect and often unfounded/uncorroborated. The recurring theme of the novel is that, when pressed for answers, Astelan simply provides another story.

We should be careful when including subject matter from "Angels of Darkness" as 'fact'. Phoebus

Horus Heresy

What is the source for Horus setting the Night Lords against the Dark Angels to delay them?

I was under the impression the Dark Angels and the Space Wolves travelled together toward Terra. Phoebus

Rites of Battle pg 59

Dark Angels Successors
The Dark Angels and their Successor Chapters, collectively known as the “Unforgiven,” generally maintain close links with one another. Connections between the Chapters’ masters are more formal than is the case with many First Founding Chapters and their Successors, due to the workings of the Inner Circle. The Inner Circle is an organisation that spans the Dark Angels and all of their Successors, with each Chapter Master holding the additional honourific “Grand Master of the Inner Circle.” The Chapter Master of the Dark Angels is the Inner Circle’s “Supreme Grand Master,” to whom the other members are answerable in matters pertaining to the hunt for the Fallen—those members of the Dark Angels Legion who turned their faces from the Primarch and threw in their lot with Luther during the Horus Heresy.
When fighting conventional wars against the many and varied enemies of Mankind, the Dark Angels and their Successors are no different from any other Space Marine Chapter, and prosecute these wars with just as much vigour. It is when the existence of even a single member of the Fallen is suspected that the Chapters are likely to pool all available resources and pursue this most hated of foes. When a Fallen is being hunted, all other considerations are cast aside and outsiders, even Space Marines hailing from any Chapter outside of the Unforgiven, are shunned. It is believed that the Dark Angels Legion sired at least three Second Founding Successors— the Angels of Absolution, the Angels of Redemption and the Angels of Vengeance. Several others are also thought to hail from the Second Founding, and there are known to be several Chapters of subsequent foundings included in the ranks of Unforgiven. The process by which a Chapter of a later founding is brought into the fold of the Inner Circle is unknown, and along with the existence of the Fallen is perhaps one of the group’s most impenetrable secrets.
Since this article is as big ultramarines one i'm going to ask for opinion on how to put this one too.--Ashendant 01:47, 28 May 2012 (CEST)
We should prob decide on a standard format on how to include successsor chapters into 1st founding pages so that all the articles follow the same layout. It will prob vary a bit between the 9 pages as the amount of successor chapters will vary in each case. I'd suggest having a short section on each of the 9 loyal 1st founding pages with a short summary of their successors and a link to a seperate article for those that have more info. Basically seperate page for Primogenitors (ultras), Unforgiven (D Angels), the B Angels successors - hte other ones dont have enough info for their own pages. Please discuss :) The Lemur 02:35, 28 May 2012 (CEST)
So we should move this to your project page:P, i only have them for 4 legions.--Ashendant 02:51, 28 May 2012 (CEST)


Chapter 2 of Master of Sanctity lists the Third Company's Master as Issachar, but also says he was not part of the Inner Circle. There is no page on him or any mention. Midnight Sun (talk) 14:10, 14 July 2016 (MDT)

the Lionguard

The Lionguard (the current Death Shadows warband) are written up as a "suspected" successor but there is no source for this, nor any mention of the Dark Angels on the Death Shadows page. As For now am I removing them from the list, if anybody have a source can we put them back togheter with that. Gamiel (talk) 17:36 09 mars 2023 (CET)


Why chapter command doesn't include El'Jonson yet? Because there aren't any official lore about him and Dark Angels and they don't know that he is returned yet? Deranzo (talk) 18:52, 12 June 2023 (UTC)