Talk:Garviel Loken

Question

Should the quote "For the Emperor" be included in Garviel Lokens quotes, beacause i don't see how that quote is unique to him beacause basically every loyalist Astartes has said that same line, please someone "Enlighten/illuminate" me on this.

Endeavour 23:26, 2 September 2007 (CEST)

I don't think so. Character specific quotes are something quite different. --Inquisitor S. 08:47, 3 September 2007 (CEST)

yes but why is that quote specific to him. Endeavour 12:55, 3 September 2007 (CEST)

I don't even know, where that quote's taken from ^^ All I wanted to say is that this quote is definitely nothing Loken-specific ;) --Inquisitor S. 15:10, 3 September 2007 (CEST)

I'd suggest that it would be acceptable to go as far as taking them both out; the first quote is a call-and-response battle-cant that not just Loken uses, and it requires a second person to complete. The latter is questionable as said above. I guess they were first put into the article to provide flavour? --Mob 02:44, 4 September 2007 (CEST)

If they are not Loken-specific (=or one of his trademarks), take them out. --Inquisitor S. 11:39, 6 September 2007 (CEST)

Structure

This article needs more structure/ subdivisions in my opinion. --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum 19:26, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

I've made the intro a lead paragraph, which was the simplest thing to do to improve the structure for now.--Mob 01:47, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

Already looks better. --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum 10:27, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

Images?

I'm 99% sure that the cover illustration to Garro: Legion of One (Audio Book) is Loken, so does anyone have that image available to download?--Proteus77 06:50, 5 March 2012 (CET)

How would you know it is Loken? --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum 10:33, 5 March 2012 (CET)

The following details are telling: 1) he's carrying a chainsword, while in the story Garro and the rest of his party carry power swords; 2) there is a Roman numeral 'XVI' visible on the chest plate of his armour (Luna Wolves/Sons of Horus), and 3) the damaged state of his armour. When the image was published on the blog, in advance of the audio book, some people speculated whether it was Iacton Qruze, but Qruze does not appear in the audio book.--Proteus77 19:01, 5 March 2012 (CET)

Here you go -

Thanks. :-) --Proteus77 19:43, 5 March 2012 (CET)

while I would accept we have a Luna Wolf, I object that we designate him as Loken. That would be pure speculation and therfore not allowed. --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum 21:11, 5 March 2012 (CET)

Are there more than 1 Luna Wolve characters in the book? If there is only one I'd say its safe to assume this is him, if there are more than one perhaps not. I dont have the audio-book myself to check. The Lemur 21:22, 5 March 2012 (CET)

Just him. It's the old issue where it's blatantly a representation of him, but because there's nothing saying it's him AFAIK (other than common sense), it's in the grey area of the site guidelines.--Mob 04:57, 7 March 2012 (CET)

I vote for the pic going back in then. The Lemur 05:01, 7 March 2012 (CET)

The problem with book covers sometimes is that they do not necessarily reflect precisely what is in the book. And we don't like grey areas. I would suggest putting the picture back in, add a "probably" or "supposedly" in the caption with a note at the end of the article explaining the situation. --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum 09:57, 7 March 2012 (CET)

Image Needed

If anyone bought the hardcover edition of Horus Rising, and has access to a scanner, can he please upload the portrait of Loken found therein?--Proteus77 09:12, 19 November 2012 (CET)

Clean up

I would like to strike from the page everything in "Legacy". Its all speculation. Loken declined the chance to become a Grey Knight. This is shown in the Buried Dagger. --Lord Lorne Walkier (talk) 09:50, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

If it is speculation by the article's author and you have legitimate sources, go ahead. If it is speculation in the source itself, it should be kept in some form or other. --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum (talk) 10:54, 24 May 2020 (UTC)