Talk:Imperial Titan

Night Gaunt-class Titan

I've been reading the Horus Heresy books and in the second book of the series, False Gods, page 20 towards the end, Jonah mentions as well as some newer Night Gaunt-class Titans..., do we have any other record of such Titan existing? -General Nikolas 19:14, 18 May 2011 (CEST)

In the original Adeptus Titanicus era fluff, Night Guant was one of several configurations of Warlord Titan - essentially different weapon layouts were given different titles. If memory serves, Night Guant was a mid-level warlord configuration, Nemesis was the heaviest equipped, cant remember any others. Unfortunately I no longer have the original rulebooks to provide definate sources Thelemur 20:40, 18 May 2011 (CEST)

Should we perhaps make mention of that if I/we can get our hands on that source book...or is it completely outdated? -General Nikolas 20:46, 18 May 2011 (CEST)

Amniotic Caskets

I can't seen to find any mention of amniotic caskets on this wiki, it doesn't seem to have its own page and there's no mention of it here or on the Princeps page. I assume it was something new that was introduced in Mechanicus and Titanicus? In Mechanicus it's suggested that amniotic caskets should become standard for larger titans and in Titanticus states that they're standard for Proximus pattern Warlords although I don't think it mentions Reavers and Warhounds are mentioned as not using caskets. Are there any other sources of information on them? Johnmcl7 02:16, 23 July 2012 (CEST)

The only thing I've seen them mentioned in is Mechanicum, I dont remember anything from the Adeptus Titanicus era mentioning them. If you want to add any info from the sources you mention though, that would be great. The Lemur 02:24, 23 July 2012 (CEST)

Four sources off the top of my head: Titan the graphic Novel. Some of the princeps are casket bound(i think). Titanicus definitely has casket bound princeps. Helsreach has Grimaldus talking to a Titan Princeps housed in a casket. And finally, Soul Hunter has a casket princeps. Towards the end at the battle of crythe. Theres maybe another reference in Blood Reaver and another in Void Stalker, though minor.--Ytokes 13:17, 23 July 2012 (CEST)

"Horus Heresy: Know No Fear" mentions amniotic caskets, although not directly for titans: "The tower supports its own manifold field, and is inloading data to him and the other seniors at a rate equivalent to the noospheric broadcast of eight hundred Battle Titans. Sixty moderati of the highest quality, working in amniotic armourglas caskets set into the deck, help to cushion that flow and parse it for comprehension." @Ytokes: from the top of my head I am not really sure that amniotic caskets are mentioned at all in the Titan graphic novels. Think they all had their command thrones. --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum 16:40, 23 July 2012 (CEST)

There is a contradiction: Titanicus says that that the implants for contacting the manifold would be disturbed if the prinicipes and moderati were equipped with noosphere-implants. --DetlefK 18:27, 23 July 2012 (CEST)

Don't know, I just quoted that ;) Anyway the quote doesn't say anything about noospheric implants. Whatever "noospheric broadcast" means eaxactly. --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum 20:27, 23 July 2012 (CEST)

I don't think that's a contradiction as the quote says the data inload is equivalent to noospheric speeds which implies it's not using noospheric technology. Will need to have a read of that bit Johnmcl7 00:56, 24 July 2012 (CEST)

Thanks very much for all the prompt responses, I wasn't expecting so many replies so quickly. I can't remember if it says much about the casket in Helsreach (other than the Princeps is in one) although I think it gives the impression the Princeps has been on the go a while which would fit with the conventional use of caskets. I will need to check Soul Hunter again, I remembered the Princeps but not much about him nor which type of Titan he came out of. I was thinking after I wrote this that the Legio Ignatum Princeps in Storm of Iron are not in caskets so I guess that's a good counterpoint to its standardisation. Johnmcl7 00:56, 24 July 2012 (CEST)

Oh, I would definitely say it's no standard. See Titan Graphic novels. --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum 11:30, 24 July 2012 (CEST)

And: In False Gods Dies Irae (Imperator Titan) isn't equipped with amniotic caskets, in Mechanicum some Titans of Legio Tempestus are (Warlords) and some are not (Warhounds). Post-Heresy: In Legio Invicta, Warlords are equipped with caskets, Reavers and Warhounds aren't. --DetlefK 14:33, 24 July 2012 (CEST)

It definitely wasn't standard during the Heresy era as Mechanicum mentions that only older or damaged Princeps are installed in the caskets but the Princeps that is put into the casket finds it so much better he believes larger titans should be controlled by casket bound Princeps by default and in Titanicus this has clearly happened in some cases as the Proximus-pattern Warlords used by the two Legios in the book use a casket by default and there's a 19 year Princeps already installed in a casket before he has even commanded a titan. I guess given in reality it is a new thing, only the newer books are going to support it. Johnmcl7 19:25, 24 July 2012 (CEST)