Talk:Perpetual
I have removed the emperor of mankind on this list, at least because he is not stated to being a perpetual in "Vulkan Lives". The quote I am sure people are misreading, is in reference to vulkan, not the emperor.
the quote
‘Yes, of course. You perpetuals are all different, and not all human in the strictest sense either.’ ‘You are referring to the Emperor?’ ‘You met him once, didn’t you?’ ‘Yes, briefly.’ Grammaticus did not know who this being was, but whatever his other claims, he was certainly powerful to be able to contact him in this way and knew a great deal of the greater stakes at play in the war. Long ago, during the Unification Wars when he had been part of the Caucasian Levies, Grammaticus had learned to be wary of those who possessed more knowledge than himself. When in such circumstances, he found it best to say little and listen intently. The eldar went on. ‘Many years ago, wasn’t it? Several lifetimes, in fact.’ Grammaticus nodded. ‘No,’ said the eldar flatly. ‘I do not mean him, I refer to Vulkan. He also cannot die as such, but you already knew that, didn’t you? As you and I speak, he is in terrible danger. I need your help to save him, if you are willing?
the statement "He also cannot die as such, but you already knew that, didn't you?" is referring to vulkan, as this is a perpetual telling another perpetual that vulkan is a perpetual. It does not include the emperor, as he is already dismissed in this statement.
- Tons of other books say the Emperor is a perpetual
- From Know No Fear (Novel) "John Grammaticus sits back and smiles, pointing a finger at Oll. ‘No, you’re bloody not. I’m only what I am now thanks to xenos intervention. You, you’re still a true Perpetual. You’re still like him.’" (Him obviously being the Emperor)
- From Legion (Novel) "‘You have a fine mind, John,’ he had said, without having to ask Grammaticus his name. ‘We should talk, and consider the options available to beings like us.’"
- From Mark of Calth (Anthology) "It was summer, a meadow beyond the walls of Nineveh. He had never met another Perpetual before. He would never meet another like Him." (referring to Ollanius Pius meeting the Emperor for the first time)
- It's conclusive he is, so I'm changing it back. Harriticus (talk) 22:54, 25 September 2018 (MDT)
- That's fine, I only removed it once because it was referencing a quote which it did not apply, you have applied quotes and sources for said quotes. ArcherPrime
There is a part in The Unremembered Empire that shows the Emperor is one of the Perpetuals as well. Below is a link. Vulkan Lives said Vulkan regenerated from being burned to ash.
https://i.imgur.com/Xjm7vfz.png?1
Damon Prytanis unequivocally said he is a natural Perpetual in chapter 7 of The Unremembered Empire. Note the "He was a Perpetual. He had been born that way, a natural Perpetual" part. Chapter 7 in The Unremembered Empire.
"He hated that fact even more. He hated the fact that the human race was the reason why the galaxy was dying. G’Latrro had explained that to him in great depth. He had explained it to him when he had first recruited him from the blood-soaked sands of Iwo Jima. The human race, vibrant, innocent and fecund, was the doorway that the warp was going to use to flood the galaxy. Chaos would win because mankind was the weak link that would allow the warp in. He was a Perpetual. He had been born that way, a natural Perpetual, but the Cabal had enhanced his abilities. He’d been working for them ever since that recruitment on the beach, old-style bullets zipping and fizzing around his head."
