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Mising Honours/Badges

missed honors to be added to table:

  • Order of the Fire of Ry'lan, Salamanders, Imperial Armor Badab War II p. 75--augustmanifesto 02:44, 2 March 2012 (CET)
Deathwatch Honours:Done--Ashendant 14:30, 11 March 2012 (CET)

Honorifica Valourum

Sure that this should not be written "Valorum"? --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum 17:44, 2 March 2012 (CET)

Scrimshaw

In what way is scrimshaw an honour badge? It's the practice of decoratively carving bones (or more often ivory etc. in real life). The Lemur 18:11, 2 March 2012 (CET)

I only transferred the items from one table to the other. I guess it is in this list because honored deeds or whatever are carved into bones. If they are worn or whatever I can't say. And if it really belongs here... well. It's not like a medal or something. Otherwise also Space Wolf sagas would have to be included etc. --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum 19:21, 2 March 2012 (CET)
Yup - I'll remove it. An honour badge should be something that is awarded TO a marine. Scrimshawing is an art that they practice themselves. The Lemur 20:05, 2 March 2012 (CET)
Hey, so I just recalled, the bones of fallen battle brothers which are used to scrimshaw are awarded as combat citations, see IF and Scrimshaw entries. Perhaps this warrants returning scrimshaw to the list with a note? --augustmanifesto 21:52, 10 March 2012 (CET)

The bones themselves could be added to the list but "scrimshaw" itself is a practice so it doesnt seem right to add it to a list of honours. Maybe adding something to the scrimshaw page and a re-direct on this page to the relevant section? But, IMO, the entry on this list shouldnt be "scrimshaw", it would have to be something like "Scrimshawed bones".The Lemur 22:09, 10 March 2012 (CET)

Yeah, I hear you. Hmm. How about "skeletal Remains" with a not about scrimshaw in the "summary" category? --augustmanifesto 22:51, 10 March 2012 (CET)

Sounds good, either make a new article or add a section to the scrimshaw page, whatever you think is best. The Lemur 23:19, 10 March 2012 (CET)

I re-added it - used the name "hands of the dead", as this is what the source novel says, I just let that link to the scrimshaw page as the info on that page covers the practice as a whole. The Lemur 01:49, 11 March 2012 (CET)

Test

Name Chapter Notes Source
Army Badge General Machina Opus DWRB.jpg 7
Aquila Ultramarines Honour badge proclaiming great wisdom. Awarded to Captain Cato Sicarius at the commencement of the Dantaro Campaign. [5b]
Aquila Token Achilus Crusade Machina Opus DWRB.jpg 7

--Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum 14:53, 9 March 2012 (CET)


I was thinking more like this:

Image Name Chapter Notes Source
Machina Opus DWRB.jpg Army Badge General 7
Machina Opus DWRB.jpg Aquila Ultramarines Honour badge proclaiming great wisdom. Awarded to Captain Cato Sicarius at the commencement of the Dantaro Campaign. [5b]
Machina Opus DWRB.jpg Aquila Token Achilus Crusade 7
--Ashendant 14:58, 9 March 2012 (CET)

Test

Name Origin Summary Image
Army Badge General blabla
Machina Opus DWRB.jpg
Aquila Ultramarines Honour badge proclaiming great wisdom. Awarded to Captain Cato Sicarius at the commencement of the Dantaro Campaign.
Machina Opus DWRB.jpg
Aquila Token Achilus Crusade blabla
Machina Opus DWRB.jpg

--Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum 14:53, 9 March 2012 (CET)

See above my suggestion for the re-organisation of this article. I removed the sources sectio as anyway sources have to be in the detailed articles. Discuss and improve please. --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum 15:00, 9 March 2012 (CET)

@ashendant: yes, that's pretty much what I was thinking. Minus the sources field (unnecessary). If the pictures should go left or right, whatever. I'd say that depends if we can change the standard pre-sorting to column#2. Otherwise we would lose the alphabetical order. --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum 15:02, 9 March 2012 (CET)

That works too. --Ashendant 15:37, 9 March 2012 (CET)
"That" referring to which option? --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum 15:43, 9 March 2012 (CET)
The last one, except with the suggestion i just put (replaced Chapter with Origin.)--Ashendant 15:44, 9 March 2012 (CET)
Are you going to do the change or could i do it?--Ashendant 15:44, 9 March 2012 (CET)
I am not sure that "Origin" should replace "Chapter". Actually I would maybe suggest something like: "Awarded in these chapters". Origin (if something like a historic origin exists) in my opinion should go in the article itself. Instead I would add a field for "Category" or "Type" (e.g. Honour, Campaign etc.). --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum 16:02, 9 March 2012 (CET)
The problem is that the main one originated from the Codex Astartes and there's at least two which originate from campaigns directly--Ashendant 16:07, 9 March 2012 (CET)
Well. We have enough space. So "Origin" and "Awarded in these chapters" it is. --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum 16:45, 9 March 2012 (CET)

OK finished my part, i don't want to see any of these pages ever again (most boring theme ever...), if anybody has any problem tell me.--Ashendant 02:14, 10 March 2012 (CET)

Why does the list start alphabetically from "Army Badge" to "Writ Sanguinatus Mori", then start again with "Crux Terminatus"? Shouldn't it just run alphabetically all the way through? The Lemur 02:59, 10 March 2012 (CET)

Because i was incredibly lazy and i'm incredibly frustated with this page.--Ashendant 03:52, 10 March 2012 (CET)
Lmao! Fair enough - I'm happy to change it if you want, I just didnt want to alter it without checking with you 1st. The Lemur 03:58, 10 March 2012 (CET)