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Daemon Prince changes

Source has to be precised more. --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum 09:47, 24 August 2011 (CEST)

Grizgutz

Pagenumber of source missing, footnote number at source missing. --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum 09:48, 24 August 2011 (CEST)

Grog Ironteef

Pagenumber of source missing, footnote number at source missing. --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum 09:48, 24 August 2011 (CEST)

Tuska

Pagenumber of source missing, footnote number at source missing. --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum 09:48, 24 August 2011 (CEST)

General information

Please note that we will be forced to remove the articles completely if you can not provide exact sources. No offence, thanks. --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum 10:56, 24 August 2011 (CEST)

Image format

It would be greatly apreciated if you would use the format everybody else uses: jpeg. PNG is way too big. Thanks. --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum 09:47, 1 September 2011 (CEST)


Please do replace your older picture with the new format, too. --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum 08:20, 2 September 2011 (CEST)

Battle of Tyrok Fields

Good work on the article, although I think you have made an mistake with the sources. You have sourced with a 2 instead of a 1b i think. Could you please check. Good work otherwise all round on your edits everywhere.--Ytokes 08:21, 5 September 2011 (CEST)

Void Spinner

Addition of images also falls under these guidelines:

Then, the image needs to be categorized! Also, ridiculous amount of white space. Microsoft Office can easily remove it. NTC3 11:46, 24 September 2011 (CEST)

Again.

You have started using internal links in the image summary, but please, add categories to your images, for Ruinous Powers' sake! NTC3 05:12, 2 October 2011 (CEST)

Issues

M'Kachan

Conflicting/ retconned official information like the Daemon prince thingy should be reprised in a "Notes" section instead of just completely removing it. --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum 21:18, 13 November 2011 (CET)

Sourcing request.

Can you please help with clarifying the sources in the Ork articles? Many of them use 3rd/4th Edition Codex as their source, but lack the page numbers. Any help will be appreciated. NTC3 03:00, 26 November 2011 (CET)

Sourcing request - Necrons/Dragon of Mars

Hi, I'm working on the Dragon of Mars/Void Dragon pages atm, and have been told Codex:Necrons 3rd edition, pg 11 contains info along the lines of -

  • "Interrogation of Tech-Adept Uvochi. - This article sees the introduction of the Void Dragon residing on Mars, specifically within the Noctis Labyrinth, an area visited by five Necron Shroud-class Light Cruisers. Although only one successfully landed on the soil of Mars, each ship survived alarmingly well, even against the greatest defences in the Imperium, until they were finally all vapourised."

If you have that codex would you be able to check if that info is correct? Cheers. Thelemur 01:38, 3 December 2011 (CET)

NVM - sorted! Thelemur 01:57, 3 December 2011 (CET)

Thanks very much mate, you are my hero :) Thelemur 02:16, 3 December 2011 (CET)

Weapons and stuff

As I just had a look at the nonstandard Dark Eldar weaponry: Articles like that are counterproductive. There should be one big article listing all equipment. The individual piece of equipment then is explained in its own article. Like it is now it's not good. --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum 20:22, 13 December 2011 (CET)

Cerebore

Hey, I saw that you made the articles for the Cerebore, Viciator and the Viragon. Nice work. I was mostly interested in whatyou have written for the Cerebore, I thought the only "information" on it was from the CCG cards, but I see you added it was in CA 2001, would you be able to quote that section/page/whatever, I'm fanatically interested in seeing what it says.

Source Request - Consecrators

Hi again, if you get a moment could you check the info on the Consecrators page? The talk page says-

"This seems a bit suspect...only a hundred marines left? There's no such info found in the sourced book.

  • Homeworld: Talon(after abandonment)
  • Speciality: Hunting the fallen
  • Battle Cry: For the lion
  • Estimated strength: 100"

the only given source on the page is Codex: Dark Angels (4th Edition), p. 75 Thanks. Thelemur 00:32, 3 January 2012 (CET)

You are a Demi-god sir! Thanks again. Thelemur 03:44, 3 January 2012 (CET)

Bolt pistol problem

You wrote: "The Bolt Pistol is a smaller handheld version of the venerable Bolter. Though it fires weaker bolt rounds from a smaller magazine then its larger cousin, the Bolt Pistol's small size and weaker recoil makes them popular sidearms among Space Marines and Imperial Guard Commissars. Assault Marines in particular favor the Bolt Pistol, frequently using them alongside the Chainsword.Source 5: pg.97" --> the source however does not say anything about using weaker bolts. Please explain. --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum 21:48, 13 January 2012 (CET)

Heavy bolter problem

See here, I checked both sources given and neither said anything on the subject. Plus we know that there are even (admittedly big) Imperial soldiers who slugged HBs around. Plus the sisters of battle and SM Scouts who also do it. So again: please be always very, very careful with what you write. Stuff like that is just ammunition for our critics. Thanks. --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum 23:31, 13 January 2012 (CET)

Armoury Lists

Thanks for filling in all the blanks and adding new articles mate! Thelemur 03:44, 19 January 2012 (CET)

Again

When yoiu insert any (I really mean ANY) information into articles they need a footnote. That of course includes pictures. They need fotnotes. Inside of the article. Thanks. --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum 10:59, 22 January 2012 (CET)

Manticore Missile

I wanted to apologize, when I created the Manticore (Missile) article from the disambiguation page I didn't realize you had already done Manticore Missile. I was just going to have yours redirect to mine since it included more sources but I realized that would be rude and decided wanted to ask first which you would prefer.BeeWolf 23:02, 24 January 2012 (CET) Will do, thanks.

Kill Team Project

Hi, since it is frequently the case that a small group of users end up working on various pages/projects together - I thought it might be an idea to have a page where we can discuss our various ideas together in one place, rather than over lots of different talk pages. I set up a page here for us to do that. I dont know if this idea will take off, or if anyone will be interested, but I thought it was worth trying - let me know what you think. The Lemur 03:41, 20 March 2012 (CET)

Iron Warriors Images

On Honsou's page, there is an image of him with his Necrontyr arm; any idea where it came from?

Also, on the Warhammer 40,000 wiki page, there is an image of M'kar, apparently by the same artist. Are they from the same source, and do you have access to it?--Proteus77 02:46, 17 April 2012 (CEST)

The image of Honsou comes from the Iron Warrior (Novella), made by Neil Roberts. It and pictures of what I assume are Adaric Vaanes, Etolph Cycerin, and the Newborn are also available at his gallery SkinnyElbows. I know that Honsou and Grendel's images were included based on Black Library's site, but I don't know if Vaanes, the Newborn, and M'kar were included in the published version, not that such facts have ever stopped the 40K wikia. -- SFH 05:56, 17 April 2012 (CEST)
Is there an objection to uploading these images from SkinnyElbows and using them here?--Proteus77 07:21, 17 April 2012 (CEST)
As long as the novella citation is given I don't see why not. The M'kar one clearly isn't fanart if you compare it to the other pictures given in the source.--Harriticus 07:30, 17 April 2012 (CEST)

Image cats

Just fropping a line to say you forgot to add a cat to the File:IGVeteran.jpg. It seems like a lot of people are forgetting to at the moment. COuld you add one please?--Ytokes 08:02, 23 April 2012 (CEST)

Stormtalon banter

Thank you for your comments on the Stormtalon issue, much appreciated! I know Inq S's job is to be a bureaucrat - we need him to be stern to keep the whole project running, but I think certain other users dont seem to understand that the nature of a wiki is that we all work together for the (Tau quote) "Greater Good". Cheers. The Lemur 21:49, 31 May 2012 (CEST)

New way of sourcing

Since you seem to be creating a lot of new articles, could you abandon the old method of sourcing (<sup>1</sup>) and use the new one? (For the article text{{Fn|1}};for the source list{{Endn|1}})

Thank You--Ashendant 22:35, 30 June 2012 (CEST)

Uncategorized Images

Just noticed there are some images in the uncategorized images list which you uploaded. Could you skim through them and fix up your errors please. Also, you are not the only one i am reminding, noticing that quite a few of our regulars are forgetting about categories.-Ytokes 13:04, 12 August 2012 (CEST)

Power axe image

You can only replace a file with the same name if it is actually the same image just in a better quality. Don't overwrite different pictures. Also this picture is missing a source. --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum 12:28, 17 August 2012 (CEST)

Vorsch

Look.--Lexstealer, Magus 18:32, 8 September 2012 (CEST)

CSM (6th) Quotes

Could you add the quotes from Ahriman, Lucius, etc., that appear over their biographies in the new Codex?--Proteus77 06:51, 14 November 2012 (CET)

Blood Angels Codex citations

Someone wrote a series of articles sourced to Codex: Blood Angels; he included page citations, but failed to say which edition codex it was. Could you please check?--Proteus77 02:22, 29 November 2012 (CET)

Great work - could you please do the same for Furion and Black Crusade of Furion, linked to Codex: Dark Angels?--Proteus77 21:00, 29 November 2012 (CET)
And these? C'tan, Old Ones, Slann, C'tan phase weapon, Necron Lord, Tomb World, Destroyer Lord, List of Cadian Trooper Regiments,

List of Cadian Armoured Regiments, Aza'gorod, Mephet'ran, linked to Codex: Necrons--Proteus77 22:18, 29 November 2012 (CET) Codices (List) ‎ (← links)

Imperial Fists

Nice work on the Imperial Fist page. Best, --augustmanifesto 16:56, 4 December 2012 (CET)

RPG Info

So I'm currently compiling a list of all information in the RPG that I have, if you want you can ask me for anything in User:Ashendant/Sources and I'll provide a direct citation of it.--Ashendant 02:41, 27 December 2012 (CET)

Image Uploads

Please check your categories when you upload images - make sure the links are good.--Proteus77 18:30, 22 February 2013 (CET)

Space Fleet

I believe they're from WD 139 to 147, which had the expanded Space Fleet rules in it. I've been debating how best to include them in the full lists, but in the end just went for adding in images of the ones that don't share a name with a BFG version for now. Agree that a proper article on each would be good, though I'd be tempted to add them as 'previous editions' on the appropriate pages for ones that have a later version such as the Emperor and the Gothic etc. Phunting 00:36, 26 February 2013 (CET)

Tau Codex Sourcing

Some of the sources listed in your recent edits of several pages are clearly wrong. For the Poctroon, Codex: Tau Empire (6th Edition), page 49, is given as source yet that page of the Codex is dedicated to the entry of the Razorshark Fighter... For Mu'galath Bay, the source mentionning a reactor meltdown is listed as page 53, yet it's the page for the entry about Kroots... Please correct this! Nash 15:59, 14 April 2013 (CEST)

I used the ipad e-book version of the codex. I don't have the standard version unfortunately. --Harriticus 17:18, 14 April 2013 (CEST)
... Right, i'm not a admin but please don't answer questions in different talk pages...
I don't know how to deal with this problem in this case. So i'll ask for help.--Ashendant 22:43, 14 April 2013 (CEST)
Well, I'm not sure how we're supposed to deal with the situation of a single source on multiple support, so I'll let the "Powers-that-Be" solve this issue.
However, I checked my "dead-tree" version of the Codex: Tau Empire (6th Edition) and the actual pages are pg.28 for the info on the Poctroon and pg.29 for Mu'galath Bay, so you've got them if you need them.
And if any other event was referenced with the iPad page numbers, and they eventually need to be corrected too, feel free to contact me on my talk page, I'll look up the actual paper version page numbers ASAP. Nash 15:36, 15 April 2013 (CEST)
If that Ipad-version is an offcial version, it is valid. Just add in the sources which "medium" the pagenumber refers to. And ideally list both "digital" and "paper" pagenumbers where possible. --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum 12:51, 16 April 2013 (CEST)
Hi. Your pages 13-15 reference from the Imperial Armour Volume Four - The Anphelion Project in the Magos Biologis article were also off, I'm guessing for a similar reason. Let me know what section it was from and I'll put in the proper references, but I'm afraid I don't have the strength to wade through the large amount of text in the book to try and find the reference alone!Phunting 01:19, 8 August 2013 (CEST)

The Dark Eldar

Hi, just wanted to thank you for all the work on with the new articles on the DE-codex and especially the Coven-supplement! Really nice. --Mngwa 05:56, 20 October 2014 (MDT)

Battle3

I just wanted to say that the template should be good to go now. --DetlefK 08:22, 28 October 2014 (MDT)

Yeah thanks I noticed, it works great. --Harriticus 09:01, 28 October 2014 (MDT)

Hovar III

This planet named HoRvar III (In the Grey Knights codex) - so there is a mistake in the name of article. In the text of article - there are 'Horvar III' - so it is right. --Darkelf77 12:49, 30 January 2015 (UTC+2)

An'ggrath

Why do you remove the "cite" on this article? We still don't have a source pages for the Source № 1: "Imperial Armour Volume Seven - The Siege of Vraks - Part Three" in it. --- Darkelf77 22:49 23 March 2015 (+2 GMT)

  • OK, Sorry. --- Darkelf77 22:58 23 March 2015 (+2 GMT)

Imperial Guard - Astra Militarum

I answered your comment on the subject, I see you are doing a lot of work, and I'd love for the both of us to be on the same page about things.

Side-subject, how do you like the new editing area?

--Madness (talk) 01:53, 15 May 2015 (MDT)

Okay I was just curious. Anyway I haven't experimented much with the new editing areas yet.--Harriticus (talk) 07:52, 15 May 2015 (MDT)
It's mostly just a matter of colors :) --Madness (talk) 08:18, 15 May 2015 (MDT)
P.S.: Thank god you were, you made me change my stance on it. --Madness (talk) 08:19, 15 May 2015 (MDT)

Imperial Armada

Are you able to clarify your source at all on this formation? I've added a comment at [[1]] and would just like to clear up the use of this name. Cheers. Phunting (talk) 16:33, 20 August 2015 (MDT)

Image categories

Just a tip: you can include the category in the summary section when uploading an image so you don't have to edit it afterwards.--Gene, Magus (talk) 05:37, 3 September 2015 (MDT)

Thanks!--Harriticus (talk) 12:22, 3 September 2015 (MDT)

The Beast

All related articels need proper citations. They all only point to the novel, always missing the chapters. --Pack_master, Großinquisitor des Ordo Lexicanum (talk) 17:10, 20 December 2015 (MST)

All Done--Harriticus (talk) 12:13, 21 December 2015 (MST)

Volkite Caliver Image

Hello. Please specify the book and page of the source for Volkite Caliver image - [2] that you have changed from the FW image. I couldn't find this image in the Horus Heresy Books myself (though I think that you took the image from one of them). Thank you.--Darkelf77 (talk) 07:43, 13 January 2016 (MST)

Images Position in the Galleries

Hi. Note please, that I make changes in the display of the galleries not because I just want, but because with you method (like that you've changed in the “Volkite Weapons” gallery) it is displayed on the 1024x600 resolution (at least) pretty bad – protrudes from the overall picture (Something like that - http://imgur.com/zRnVMn7). I think that my method is better, because with it, pictures displayed within the background and don't protrudes anywhere regardless the resolutions of the monitors or notebooks. On the other hand, if it is fundamentally to you - let it be as you've done it.--Darkelf77 (talk) 06:22, 14 January 2016 (MST)

Do whatever you want with it don't care that much --Harriticus (talk) 11:55, 14 January 2016 (MST)

Minotaurs

Please re-check all of your today editions (about Minotaurs) - because I didn't delete your information about the Night Reapers and Canon Conflict, though it is showed as if I did. I've only added about Bifrost and re-newed the sources to Forge World cite.--Darkelf77 (talk) 13:31, 19 January 2016 (MST)

  • I think now - it is ok.--Darkelf77 (talk) 13:37, 19 January 2016 (MST)

The Purge characters

The Purge (Novella) I just finished the plot summary, and there are many characters who have pages that could use the details added with the chapters (from the Word Bearer series) and others that could have new pages. A lot of it is just copy and paste to create the character pages or add to the existing ones. I will be gone for the weekend, so I won't have time. If you want to work on it, feel free. Midnight Sun (talk) 22:57, 4 February 2016 (MST)

I'll give it a look perhaps, the next big project for me is going to be the Curse of the Wulfen book though. As for this, I haven't read The Purge myself nor do I have it atm.--Harriticus (talk) 01:14, 5 February 2016 (MST)
You wouldn't need it as my summary is very detailed as I put information that could go on individual pages there. Midnight Sun (talk) 07:22, 5 February 2016 (MST)

Timeline

Feel free to use my timelines here. Midnight Sun (talk) 16:59, 11 February 2016 (MST)

Thanks will do!--Harriticus (talk) 18:16, 11 February 2016 (MST)

Two Centuries?

"The Legion's Primarch Corax was not reunited with the Legion for nearly two centuries."

From the Raven Guard page. That doesn't seem like it is right, especially when people who helped him liberate his home were made Space Marines, suggesting that the liberation didn't have too much of a timing difference. Midnight Sun (talk) 21:08, 18 February 2016 (MST)

I didn't write that bit so I don't know exactly where they got the figure from. But Corax was reunited late in the Great Crusade, he didn't even meet the two lost primarchs. He was found right before Alpharius.--Harriticus (talk) 21:10, 18 February 2016 (MST)
I know you didn't write it, but I'm sure you'd be able to verify. Another page suggests only 3 decades passed from beginning of legion until his take over. I find it all odd. Midnight Sun (talk) 21:31, 18 February 2016 (MST)
I'll check Index Astartes articles and the Forge World Heresy book on the Raven Guard. If it isn't there I dunno where it'd be.--Harriticus (talk) 21:32, 18 February 2016 (MST)
The citation says it is from the Forge World book. Also, can you verify the language regarding the ousting of the former leader. I would love to get the actual text because it seems off or I am missing something. Midnight Sun (talk) 21:34, 18 February 2016 (MST)

Anvillus

I think that Anvillus and Anvilus Nine - are two different Forge Worlds. One "l" in one and two "ll" in other. That may be not a usual typo of the FW. For example, we also have Anvillus Pattern Dreadclaw (Anvillus) and Anvilus Autocannon Battery (probably from Anvulus Nine).--Darkelf77 (talk) 13:38, 4 April 2016 (MDT)

I really doubt it's the case, but revert it by all means because there's no solid proof one way or the other. --Harriticus (talk) 15:31, 4 April 2016 (MDT)
So, I may revert it, or we leave it as it is now?--Darkelf77 (talk) 04:19, 5 April 2016 (MDT)
Sure revert it if you want--Harriticus (talk) 11:58, 5 April 2016 (MDT)


I was looking through the Horus Heresy Book Eight, and your edit 2 years ago inputting the story of the half company stationed there could not be found on page 115- or any of the following section, for that matter. Do you have a more specific source you could pinpoint for that story? Currently, that unverified section makes up over half the page for Anvillus, so haste would be appreciated. --Yoshb124 (talk) 12:50, 25 July 2021 (PT)

Mistaken citation, it's on page 111 Harriticus (talk) 03:32, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

Not Yet Released

Please don't number and move books to the official released section until they are officially released. BL has a history of changing numbers, changing formats, etc. due to various issues. Midnight Sun (talk) 20:56, 31 May 2016 (MDT)

Question

[3] Why did you label this image from the cover of Outcast Dead as anyone but one of the space marines of the Outcast Dead? I can find no support that this is Arik Taranis. Midnight Sun (talk) 14:16, 5 August 2016 (MDT)

Guy on the cover is wearing Thunder Warrior armor and Taranis is the only Thunder Warrior to appear in the book. Figured it was him. If you don't think that's sufficient remove it by all means.--Harriticus (talk) 04:22, 6 August 2016 (MDT)

Redirects

You redirected The Wild King (short story) to The Wild King. Don't do that. Only do the reverse. Otherwise, it causes a lot of problems later. All short stories need to be marked (short story) in wiki title. Midnight Sun (talk) 20:04, 18 September 2016 (MDT)

k--Harriticus (talk) 20:07, 18 September 2016 (MDT)

Dark Imperium Template

I think we should put together a template for the Dark Imperium (including Gathering Storm) series of books, manuals, etc. What do you think? Midnight Sun (talk) 11:10, 5 June 2017 (MDT)

Do what you want sounds fine--Harriticus (talk) 13:04, 5 June 2017 (MDT)
I'll link it after I throw something together for you to use. Midnight Sun (talk) 14:47, 5 June 2017 (MDT)

Not a Canon Conflict

[4] The novel makes it clear that his discovery was psychic and not physical. It also makes it clear that Magnus did a lot of stuff before being united with his legion. Midnight Sun (talk) 08:38, 16 October 2017 (MDT)

well then I misread, make the appropriate changes--Harriticus (talk) 18:57, 16 October 2017 (MDT)

Note

[5] You cannot throw cited material at the end of a paragraph when that cited material does not cite the rest. It causes confusion. You also removed a "cite this" that you cannot remove with that reference. Midnight Sun (talk) 08:39, 16 October 2017 (MDT)

Eh? didn't even notice. Must have happened in editing--Harriticus (talk) 18:58, 16 October 2017 (MDT)

Deceiver

I think that you was wrong, moving the Deceiver article to Mephet'ran‎. The Mephet'ran may be just name of the one of the shards of this C'tan God. The Deceiver is an old name, I don't think that an all Necron's background would be remaked because of one of the novels. Though I couldn't say that I strongly convince in it. I think somebody may also say their opinions to make a final decision.--Darkelf77 (talk) 11:01, 30 January 2018 (MST)

Deceiver and Mephet'ran were merged a long, long time ago (~2011). I just redirected a name but realize it was a typo so undid it.--Harriticus (talk) 11:16, 30 January 2018 (MST)
In 2011? OK, I didn't know it. Then I really don't insist.--Darkelf77 (talk) 11:49, 30 January 2018 (MST)

armada

Contrast is really poor on the latest crop of dark eldar battlefleet gothic images. The entire image is basically black with a few green blobs. Is there any way to improve it? Bobmath (talk) 09:02, 25 January 2019 (MST)

I could try to re-upload them with a different color at some point, overall the ship gallery in the game has sub-par views of many of the ships Harriticus (talk) 09:08, 25 January 2019 (MST)
Boosting the brightness and contrast way the heck up (~90) seems to help, what do you think? I'd rather not manipulate jpegs if I can help it, it's better to edit the originals. Bobmath (talk) 09:17, 25 January 2019 (MST)
I've reuploaded new versions, upped contrast/brightness to the max and changed color scheme. Best I can do. Harriticus (talk) 10:15, 25 January 2019 (MST)
Great, they're a lot more visible now. Bobmath (talk) 10:32, 25 January 2019 (MST)


Waiting123456

Realm of Chaos: Slaves to Darkness on page 217 details the Sensei and Grey Sensei (said the Grey Sensei are "among the cruellest servants of darkness."). Realm of Chaos: The Lost and the Damned had Table Top for the Sensei as champions of the Star Child on pages 186-191.


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More books Perpetuals will appear in?

Warhammer Combat Cards

Hiya, whenever you feel like it you can have a look at the changes I made to Warhammer Combat Cards. Cheers! --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum (talk) 11:19, 8 March 2019 (MST)

All looks like good improvements, thanks Harriticus (talk) 17:47, 8 March 2019 (MST)

Would you able to update Lexicanum? I can provide quotes and links showing everything is from unreliable narrators and that canon does not exist in Warhammer. 1d4chan has a page showing titled "Canon" showing such and showing quotes from authors about it.

Canon exists, and lexicanum has always operated under this regard.Harriticus (talk) 02:10, 19 April 2019 (MDT)

User:Waiting123456 "With Warhammer and Warhammer 40,000, the notion of canon is a fallacy. [...] Warhammer and Warhammer 40,000 exist as tens of thousands of overlapping realities in the imaginations of games developers, writers, readers and gamers. None of those interpretations is wrong."

Gav Thorpe, Lead Designer GW

"It all stems from the assumption that there's a binding contract between author and reader to adhere to some nonexistent subjective construct or 'true' representation of the setting. There is no such contract, and no such objective truth."

Andy Hoare, Game Designer GW (in the comments)

"There is no canon. There are several hundred creators all adding to the melting pot of the IP."

Aaron Dembski-Bowden, co-author Horus Heresy series

"Here's our standard line: Yes it's all official, but remember that we're reporting back from a time where stories aren't always true, or at least 100% accurate. If it has the 40K logo on it, it exists in the 40K universe. Or it was a legend that may well have happened. Or a rumour that may or may not have any truth behind it."

Marc Gascogne, chief editor Black Library

If you want more you are going to have give the confirmation code as the site won't let me use external links without it. 1d4chan has a page for this and while 1d4chan mostly uses memes, it does have accurate info in certain parts and is moderated as Lexicanum and most wikis are.

I have read Mark of Calth and have the collector's hardback edition for the book with black and white illustrations. Below is a quote where Ollanius time traveled back to Verdun and he found a diary that had "M'kar" written over and over (it seemed one of the soldiers lost their minds). There is a picture of Ollanius in the book and its the one on Lexicanum.

"They sleep the next night in a wood, in the rain. They make a shelter using canvas rolls they brought from the trailer, and eat some ration packs. Artillery thumps and drums in the distance. There is a war going on over the hill. Oll knows he is being played with. It is a pine wood, a familiar scent. He is not sure, but he is pretty convinced he knows this place too. Is this benevolent guidance, or someone leading him into a trap? Most likely the same person, either way. Damn you, John. Oll gets up early, and leaves them sleeping. If he remembers it right, there is the end of an old communication trench not three hundred paces from the line of the wood. He can smell the river, which means that Verdun is to the west. The trench is right where he remembered it, right where he and the other men dug it. It is abandoned, slightly overgrown. A shift in shelling caused a tactical displacement, and this part of the line got emptied out. Small blue weed-flowers nod. Grass sprouts between tumbled sandbags. Bulwark armour-plates are rusting. The trench floor decking is sodden and unmaintained. He can smell coffee grounds and nettles, and latrines. The bright brass of spent shell cases litters the ditch and the sandbag line. Oll follows the jink in the zigzag trench under a low cover-top. He walks slowly, warily, carrying a rifle that will not be made for almost another thirty thousand years. There is the down-step into the officer’s dugout. He remembers it all, as if it was yesterday. In the dugout, there is a small desk made from a fruit box: a coffee pot, a stove, a dirty enamel mug. There is a dark stain on the back wall. Someone left in a hurry, someone who was hurt. On the desk, there is a log book. He opens it. It is a repurposed civilian diary, locally manufactured. The paper is cream, the numbers and the ruled lines all printed in the faintest blue. The diary was intended for a year ‘1916’, a date so antique that he can barely make sense of it."

Clear canon exists, and these quotes don't change that. You won't have a story with the Emperor walking around in M41, because it violates canon. I consider the issue closed.Harriticus (talk) 14:46, 19 April 2019 (MDT)

Forgechain

Iron_Hands#Forgechain --> I still don't understand from reading the text if this is an augmetic every Iron Hand gets one of. And is it correct that Iron Hands can jump between different Clans? Because that is somehow how it comes across. Please clarify. --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum (talk) 02:07, 27 May 2019 (MDT)

Alright I've added clarification. As for jumping between clans, yes the source does seem to indicate that. The exact text is "Each new vertebrae torn loose and replaced represents the Iron Hand’s acceptance into another clan company." Harriticus (talk) 08:30, 27 May 2019 (MDT)
Okay, just seemed weird to me - but then I am not an expert on Iron Hands. And you know, AH and logic... ;) --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum (talk) 11:28, 27 May 2019 (MDT)

Ulrach Branthan

See my changes in Ulrach Branthan. That also falls under "cleaning up" before re-inserting info... --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum (talk) 02:07, 27 May 2019 (MDT)

Looks good! Harriticus (talk) 08:30, 27 May 2019 (MDT)

Marneus Augustus Calgar

The three re-inserted images are missing their footnootes/ sources inside the article. The re-added source misses a comma. --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum (talk) 02:07, 27 May 2019 (MDT)

Taken care of Harriticus (talk) 08:34, 27 May 2019 (MDT)

Beta-Garmon II

Beta-Garmon II: You did not use the 2nd source in the article, right? Also see Warhammer_40k_-_Lexicanum_talk:Help#About_Sourcing_VII, thanks. --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum (talk) 02:57, 2 June 2019 (MDT)

I meant to cite 2 instead of 1 in the 2nd paragraph, all fixed. Harriticus (talk) 03:29, 2 June 2019 (MDT)
And the multiple chapters-citation (see above)? --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum (talk) 04:13, 2 June 2019 (MDT)
I mean it can be difficult to cite entire novel events sometimes. Saying "the traitors won at Beta-Garmon", where would I cite that specifically? Maybe the last chapter? Harriticus (talk) 04:18, 2 June 2019 (MDT)
Yes, just a short explanation/ input from your side on the help talk page would be appreciated to have the different aspects to factor in. Because the point is to later take them into account when rewritting the Help section. So in this case for example the necessity to distinguish between events that can be pinpointed and events that stretch out. Thanks. --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum (talk) 04:23, 2 June 2019 (MDT)

Image footnotes

Please remember to include citations for the images used in the articles, thank you. --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum (talk) 07:19, 3 June 2019 (MDT)

righto Harriticus (talk) 07:20, 3 June 2019 (MDT)

Red Butchers

Red Butchers: that main source is wrong. I doubt it is even this book. Please correct or mark for deletion, thanks. --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum (talk) 14:40, 4 June 2019 (MDT)

I checked and it was page 216, not 116. Fixed it. Harriticus (talk) 14:48, 4 June 2019 (MDT)

Can you think of an in-universe explanation as to how Ollanius is Caucasian (white)? The hardcover collector's version for "Mark of Calth" shows a picture him as white. He was born in Nineveh about 45,000 years ago. Waiting123456


https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/9/94/OllPious.jpg

The picture of Ollanius (from the Horus Heresy books) appears in the hardcover version of "Mark of Calth".

Sourcing format

You have to format sources correctly. [[|File:TraitorCommissarOgryn.jpg|This]] is really not how it is done. --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum (talk) 15:25, 4 July 2019 (MDT)

You want the access date right? I'll add it. Harriticus (talk) 20:09, 4 July 2019 (MDT)
The access date is one thing, the correct formatting telling me at first glance the name of the page and the title of the article is another. I think that an example can be seen in the new "Citations" article. --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum (talk) 23:12, 4 July 2019 (MDT)
So it should always look like this: Warhammer Community: Blackstone Fortress: a Look at Traitor Command (Posted 03/07/2019) (last accessed 5 July 2019). --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum (talk) 12:47, 5 July 2019 (MDT)
Okay thanks I’ll get on itHarriticus (talk) 15:47, 5 July 2019 (MDT)

Character lists

See Warhammer_40k_-_Lexicanum_talk:Help#Source_Link_in_Lists. --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum (talk) 05:30, 12 July 2019 (MDT)

Thush'Bolg

See Warhammer_40k_-_Lexicanum:Citation#How_often_and_where_do_I_need_to_add_citations.3F: "Citations must at least be added at the end of each paragraph (including the introductory one!) - even if there is only one source to an article." --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum (talk) 22:12, 11 August 2019 (MDT)

Ultramarines companies

Again: Everything must have a footnote, including images. Also I think a company is singular, therefore I changed the verb in the introductory paragraph from plural to singular. --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum (talk) 02:41, 19 August 2019 (MDT)

No problem, I wrote a lot of articles and things fall through the cracks sometimes. I’ll get on it when I’m not mobile Harriticus (talk) 09:53, 19 August 2019 (MDT)

Good, thanks. I like that somebody started breaking the info down to unit level by the way! --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum (talk) 02:58, 20 August 2019 (MDT)

Chaos Space Marine Legions and Warbands (List)

Thank you. I often forget to add Warbands to the list as well... ^^--Darkelf77 (talk) 12:38, 20 August 2019 (MDT)

Weblinks format

See here (cf. here), thanks. --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum (talk) 04:58, 26 August 2019 (MDT)

Waiting123456

The Eye of Terror novel talks about the Star Child (though does not directly say its the "Star Child"). What do you think? Below.

https://www.reddit.com/r/40kLore/comments/cl2g0p/book_excerpt_eye_of_terror_the_emperor_plans_to/

Issues

Thanks. --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum (talk) 11:30, 28 August 2019 (MDT)

Dire Avengers

You replaced an existing image with a new one. I do however think that your image does not show the same minis. See also here, those are not the same miniatures. --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum (talk) 15:40, 25 September 2019 (MDT)

I did that a while ago, but I do think they're the same mini set. There's only been 3 Dire Avengers sets as far as I know (1st, 2nd, and 4th editions) and I believe they're both the 4th. If you feel it's different change it back by all means though. Harriticus (talk) 17:13, 25 September 2019 (MDT)
Yes, I know it was a while ago, but it came up now because I was discussing and researching minis together with a colleague from the German Lex. Currently the facts about the 3rd edition Dire Avengers are not completely clear. It seems as if when Codex Craftworld Eldar came out in 2000 GW at first simply used the old Dire Avengers metal models with a different paint scheme (I also don't think there are different 1st and 2nd ed models). Then at some later point there probably was an update of the Plastic Guardians boxed set with the aforementioned metal bits. If my info on these models is correct at least the Exarch got another update later (look at the weapon arms), but it is entirely possible that the trooper models remained the same. But this is an ongoing research. --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum (talk) 01:52, 26 September 2019 (MDT)

Perpetuals

Hello, Harriticus, would you read my comment on the discussion page for the Perpetuals? I show a quote from The Unremembered Empire that shows Damon Prytanis saying he is a natural Perpetual.

User:Waiting123456

So would you see about updating it? I hope its alright.

User:Waiting123456 October 1, 11:54 PM

I’ve got a lot on my plate right now why don’t you do whatever you want as long as it’s properly sighted Harriticus (talk) 14:55, 2 October 2019 (MDT)

User:Waiting123456 October 2, 3:00 PM

Alright.

User:Waiting123456 October 4, 6:20 AM

Another book excerpt saying the Emperor is one of the Perpetuals. What do you think? Below. Its a book excertpt, so its alright.

https://i.imgur.com/Xjm7vfz.png?1

White Tiger Dao

Talk:White Tiger Dao. --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum (talk) 04:22, 27 September 2019 (MDT)

(talk)

Known Members of the Salamanders and other articles

Reminder: NO additions without sources are permitted. That explicitly also applies to list items --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum (talk) 00:04, 29 October 2019 (MDT)

Alright I'll get on it, citations for list items with their own articles threw me for a loopHarriticus (talk) 00:10, 29 October 2019 (MDT)



Waiting123456 Harritcius, what is with the page for Ku'gath saying one part needs to be sourced when it literally gives the source as the Chaos Codex on page 51 in 6th Edition? You should use the below link that shows a review of the 2013 Chaos Codex. It matches up and shows the quote that matches up with what is said on page 51 in the 2013 Chaos Codex.


http://nurgle.stelio.net/book_C_CD_2013.php

Sector Lords

I removed three sources and all Space Marines from this article. a) the Ultramarines: they are not called "sector lords" and they are not appointed by the High Lords of Terra. b) Lufgt Huron: the given source says nothing about sector lord. c) Jubal Khan: the given source says nothing about sector lord. --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum (talk) 18:38, 1 January 2020 (UTC)

Spirit Stones and Wrath Constructs

Sorry, I have no access to discord, so will discuss there. About this your edit https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=Asuryani&curid=59312&diff=417189&oldid=417088 Technically speaking it is spirit stones that inserted in Wraith Constructs. BUT! - with the soul of Aeldari inside those stones, of course. The matter is that this is done so that in case of destruction of the Construct, the Spirit Stone can be removed, then re-placed in a new Construct or back into the infinity circle (similarly as in the case of normal Craftworld Eldar). In the variant that you proposed, the reader may get the impression that the soul is placed directly in the construct, and this is not so, otherwise without protection of the Stone, at the time of the destruction of the construct, Slaanesh would devour such a soul. I suggest replacing the text with variant like this - 'Other Souls are plugged into Wraith Constructs via the Spirit Stones, where such souls rejoin the living as engines of war'. If you are against, let me know.--Darkelf77 (talk) 11:18, 12 February 2020 (UTC)

    • Okay, I just felt it was a big vague in the source I checked. Yours is better though Harriticus (talk),

New regiments

Are the planet names explicitly stated in the source? --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum (talk) 00:18, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

  • For Haephos and Riatov they are from the same system as the book topic is being fought. For Formund it’s not explicitly said but I found an article named formund already, from a Guard codex, so figured it was not just a coincidence Harriticus (talk) 01:07, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
Ok, we will have to check that. Because the past practice of some people of simply extrapolating planet names from regiment names is problematic. --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum (talk) 01:11, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

Category

Please add Category to all the pictures you added.--Darkelf77 (talk) 08:17, 20 March 2020 (UTC)

Another Perpetual in the Siege

I saw the leaked book excerpts for a Perpetual named Erda who appeared in Dan Abnett's first Siege book. She met the Emperor when they were roughly coeval during the days of the first cities of Old Earth. We learn other things from her, though I will not spoil more.

We might have to make a page for her when we get to reading Saturnine (Novel)

Waiting123456 March 24, 2020, 2:32

Erda

"By the time of the [[Siege of Terra]], Erda was living in exile at [[Wikipedia: Richat Structure|Guelb]], an ancient site close to her birthplace. Living with a group of servants and the Space Marine [[Leetu]], she was eventually visited by [[John Grammaticus]]. Grammaticus sought Erda's help in getting into the [[Imperial Palace]] and had also arranged to rendezvous with [[Oll Persson]] at her home. Erda was shocked to hear that Oll had become involved in the affairs of the Human race again, and expressed worry over his fate when he did not arrive. Though sympathetic to John's cause she ultimately said she had no way to help him enter the Palace.{{Fn|1}}"

I really, really think it is inadmissible to mix Real world and fiction within the main body text... --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum (talk) 08:14, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
Normally i would agree, but she specifically calls Guelb by its real world name and even calls it Mauritania. She goes into detail about a real world site so I felt it was appropriate. Harriticus (talk) 14:22, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
With GW we never know in how far or at all "Real World" is applicable. Therefore let's just strictly distinguish between the actual article section and the trivia section - and keep them generally separate. Apart from that it would pose the very practical problem that if somebody were to write an in-universe article about "Guelb" if it was or will be described in one of the books some articles would not point to the correct Lexicanum article but instead to the Real World Wikipedia article. And that would make no sense whatsoever. "Trivia" is the place where we can overlap, not outside of it. --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum (talk) 20:31, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

Hut

okay thanks for clarifying Harriticus (talk) 21:10, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
Thanks. I would also like to take the chance to encourage you not to be afraid to insert "red" links as much as possible (i.e. once per paragraph is totally okay). There is (almost) no such thing as "over-linking", and especially no policy to avoid linking to not-yet existing articles. Keep in mind that only like that the tool displaying "wished-for" articles can work. --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum (talk) 06:17, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

Calth Irregulars

Image needs a footnote, thanks. --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum (talk) 22:03, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

All done!Harriticus (talk) 22:17, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

Centurion Squads in Space Wolves and Blood Angels forces templates

Hello there! I noticed that Centurion squads are included in the Space Wolves and Blood Angels forces templates, although they aren't included in those Chapters' Codexes, or fiction that I'm aware of (although there's plenty I haven't read). As you've put a lot of care into the forces templates, I thought it best to run this by you before removing them, in case there's a source I'm unfamiliar with.

(The Dark Angels are almost in the same position, although the September '19 White Dwarf has a line mentioning the Dark Angels combine "the immense firepower of Hellblasters and Devastator Centurions" on p.30.) RevTibe (talk) 02:00, 11 April 2020 (UTC)

They were in past codex's I think and figured every chapter had them. Anyway change it if you want I don't care Harriticus (talk) 03:02, 11 April 2020 (UTC)


Ollanius Pius' page

Why was a lot of info for Ollanius Pius' page removed? Waiting123456

I divided it up into several pages given that Ollanius Pius is several different people. Most of the removed info is of Ollanius Persson who now has his own page and all the info is on there Harriticus (talk) 10:38, 13 April 2020 (UTC)


I am sorry I forgot to put up what my name and what time I put up the question.

Waiting123456

April 13, 2020, 1:57 PM.

Erda

It said on Erda's page that Amarte is a Perpetual. Would you be able to fix that? I do not know about her being a Perpetual.

April 24th, 2020, 11:09. Waiting123456

Alivia Sureka was around during the time of the Greeks

It was shown in Alivia Sureka's latest short story that she (that being Alivia Sureka) was Artemisia 1 of Caria. Below is a book excerpt for it.

"This was, after all, a proud vessel of the Imperial Navy, and Sulaiman would never believe that she too had captained ships of war in equally dangerous times. She remembered the Straits of Artemisium, commanding warships of another man people foolishly called a god-emperor."

-Old Wounds, New Scars

May 1, 10:59, 2020 Waiting123456

Garviel Loken power/sword issue

Hello, this is an issue that has popped up two times recently. Apparently there is some confusion if Loken acquired a power (as you wrote) or a force sword from Rubio. The latter option has been satisfactorily sourced with screenshots from "The Buried Dagger" (IIRC). Could you be so kind to provide a screenshot of the passage from "Saturnine" you used for your entry? Just to know if we have some minor error from our side here or if it is one of the GW fuckups we should make a footnote of, thanks. I do not have access to "Saturnine", otherwise I would have checked myself. --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum (talk) 08:38, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

I’m not sure what kind of sword it is. I assumed it was power because that’s the default. It may have been force in saturnine. I’m away right now but will try to research it at some pointHarriticus (talk) 13:59, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
I have now found a Loken-sword reference as a definite "force" weapon in Part 3, Chapter 1. Are you sure Loken is even in Chapter 5? Obviously I am just skimming here, not properly reading line by line, page by page... --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum (talk) 14:00, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
he’s probably in there, I had a very bad scan though and it made going back and forth difficult Harriticus (talk) 20:46, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
Okay. --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum (talk) 07:02, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
Well I've reviewed it. The original citation was part 3, chapter 5. The book is divided into 3 parts which makes the citations even more complicated. However this is also wrong and it's in fact part 3, chapter 6 (or the epilogue) where he appears. specifically page 541-542. This part does not have a chapter number assigned to it (despite being the 6th segment of the part) so I incorrectly counted backwards to determine its number apparently. I had also confused the afterward for the epilogue. I've since changed the citation to just "epilogue". Harriticus (talk) 15:15, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
Ok, thx. I reviewed those two pages and as far as I see they only refer to Rubio's sword as a "gladius", so no contradiction of the previously established *force* sword issue. --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum (talk) 08:11, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

WIP articles

Please check and if not really still being created, remove WIP template, thanks. --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum (talk) 09:16, 7 June 2020 (UTC)


Fury of Magnus

Would one of the moderators be able update Lexicanum since the special version for Fury of Magnus is out and people have read it? I do not have the book.

Waiting123456

List of Anthologies

Until someone does end up doing a proper overhaul of this page, might we turn the List of Anthologies article into a redirect to List of Novels#Anthologies? Thanks. KazilDarkeye (talk) 05:36, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

It's done Harriticus (talk) 05:38, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
Thank you. KazilDarkeye (talk) 05:40, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

Template Question

Hello. I noticed while editing the Lord of Skulls page that there's some kind of phantom <center> hanging around between the two templates at the bottom of the page (and after double checking, I see that it's also on other pages with multiple templates at the bottom, e.g. Rhino). I don't know if the coding on the templates is off? I saw that you were the last one to edit those templates but I can't see anything wrong with them - do you happen to know what's up? KazilDarkeye (talk) 20:07, 5 November 2020 (UTC)

I’ve noticed that too and have been trying to fix it. No luck so far any help would be appreciated Harriticus (talk),
Experimenting with the ChaosForces and DaemonEngine templates, I've got something (see Lord of Skulls. I think it needs some slight refinement, but there's no phantom <center> at least. KazilDarkeye (talk) 20:55, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
Thanks I’ll apply what you did to the other templates I’ve modified Harriticus (talk) 21:27, 5 November 2020 (UTC)

File:Voidtridentmarine.png

Could you please add a source here? Thanks. --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum (talk) 23:29, 2 January 2021 (UTC)

It's done Harriticus (talk) 17:36, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
Thanks, I am not singling out any specific people, just started working a bit on our radioactive pile of unsourced images. And when the original uploader is still around, always worth a try. --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum (talk) 18:31, 3 January 2021 (UTC)

Image uploads and re-integration

Hello, please strictly observe the citation formats, for example "Games Workshop" is not sufficient, thank you. We really have to get this whole business of sourcing running as it should, thank you. --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum (talk) 20:02, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

And that also applies to miniature gallery articles, thanks. Anyway my plan is to ASAP get on the "Lexicanum Miniature Catalogue" project (after the Help section and probably in parallel) and these pages will then all be properly split up and overhauled, Just FYI. But obviously it would help a lot if as much proper sourcing is already in place by then to transfer them. --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum (talk) 20:10, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
Okay, I've also had to introduce some new sources of citation not yet used before so we should review how to format that. One of the deleted pics (Leman Russ Punisher) is from a GW box art of an older set and was also available on their website until a few years back. I have the original box so used that as a source Harriticus (talk) 20:19, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
Good point. I never thought about boxes as sources. Come to that I don't even know how boxes for example from different editions can actually be distinguished. Do they have a date printed somewhere on them? --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum (talk) 21:31, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
There's a copyright date, Mine was dated 2010 Harriticus (talk) 21:33, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
We would probably need to ask other people if their (same) boxes have the same date. --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum (talk) 11:20, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
maybe that could work as a general rule, but in the case of the Leman Russ punisher you can probably take my word for it. I’ve been contributing for 10 years now and haven’t made any fake stuff yet
jokes aside I’ll try to find a better source for the punisher, I have a lot of old GW catalogs it probably will be on oneHarriticus (talk) 17:00, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

Image infos


--Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum (talk) 11:49, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

The problem with regards to official sources is that the models are from GWs website and have since been deleted. I will go through some old stuff I have for kasrkin and warspheres though
As for the comic it doesn’t have page numbers so I used the chapter
Cheers Harriticus (talk) 16:57, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

Yes, the disappearing GW websites are a problem. And without an URL it is quite hard to try to find something in the Internet Archive. But in the meantime I really strongly have to insist on a bit more diligent observation on the correct formatting. Sometimes you do it perfectly, sometimes you don't, and I already cleaned up quite a bit of that today. The correct formats are:
[[Source]], pg. pagenumber and [[Source]], pgs. pagenumber-pagenumber. Explicitly with a comma behind the source, empty space, pg. or pgs., emptyspace followed by the number(s).
Big thanks. --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum (talk) 20:23, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

File:TriForgeCluster.jpg and others

You are using a non-existing image category there. --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum (talk) 10:17, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

File:EmissariesImperatus.jpg

The given source in my opinion is not correct. Pg. 27 deals with Questor Mechanicus Heraldry. --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum (talk) 13:20, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

Was an odd error, the source should say codex adeptus custodes 8th edition. I've fixed it. Harriticus (talk) 14:29, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
Good that you also fixed in directly in the article. Whenever I come across a (random) article I check the images for footnotes. If I find a valid one in the file itself I add it it in the article. This was just when I was copypasting the source for the Emissaries article that I thought it weird to find a Custodes in the Mech Codex. --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum (talk) 19:25, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

Iron Warriors de-quarantining

Sorry, but that absolutely and definitely does not work like that. By simply "reverting" you have erased all the work I have done on cleaning up and bringing more order into the sources and repairing them where necessary, not to mention all those missing internal links. And you also damaged the Quarantine section on the talk page. Reverting is out of the question for this kind of work. I will now revert your changes and manually insert your new sources as that is the only clean and proper way of doing things. --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum (talk) 22:34, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

No worry, I already thought of that. I already added the changes you made back in Harriticus (talk) 22:35, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

Adding sources

Two preliminary notes before I forget them: You should also start to only use Internet archive link versions for external links ("Wayback machine"). I have recently learned to archive not-yet archived links and it is really simple, I can vouch for that. And the reason is a very practical and serious one: GW always will delete their (for example) shop links sooner or later leaving us with dead links, so better to avoid that problem from the beginning. That GW does indeed delete their links I know from revising older articles, you can check it out that I am right on this.

Secondly, and this is more important: Don't just "squeeze in" for example new pagenumbers in pre-existing sources out of convenience. It is arduous, but in the end doing it properly is the only way to do it. What I mean is: If there is only one reference in a source it is for example

  • {{Endn|24}}: Source blabla, pg. 1

If there is more than one reference in a source it is for example:

  • 24: Source blabla:
    • {{Endn|24a}}: pg. 1
    • {{Endn|24b}}: pg. 2
    • {{Endn|24c}}: pg. 3

And not:

  • {{Endn|24}}: Source blabla, pg. 1
    • {{Endn|24a}}: pg. 2
    • {{Endn|24b}}: pg. 3

This means that often the source block and numbers will have to be re-arranged and re-numbered, but that is unavoidable. --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum (talk) 07:02, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Got it. Though for warhammercommunity (GWs blog) I’m not really sure if archives are necessary as they have individual dated article pages and not ever-changing pages Harriticus (talk) 11:19, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Better safe than sorry. The Archive-page-only policy will be rolled-out for any and all external links. In the hope nobody will switch off one day the Internet Archive. --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum (talk) 11:22, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
I am sure sooner or later GW will delete them wholly. Before WH community there was another site with news - GW Blog. GW deleted ALL of it without any regrets. There - https://web.archive.org/web/20141004090326/http://www.games-workshop.com:80/en-WW/blog/blog.jsp - here is a pitiful remnants of it in Web-archive. So sooner or later the same fate awaits WH-community.

Iron Warriors

Okay, I'll look into how to archive these links. By the way, some parts of the remaining passages of the Iron Warriors in quarantine have you saying they need Chapters, but these are from the Index Astartes articles where no chapters are available. I have however identified what number page numbers they're on. Would simply citing the page number be appropriate? 12:12, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Then the original source numbers were wrong or I lost track due to the large list of sources. Because I had the impression the still quarantined sections were from novels and therefore page or chapter numbers were needed. Incidentally I anyway failed to find the "Rhino as pillboxes" reference in the novel given as a source, which makes sense if the correct source is actually Index Astartes. And yes, for the Index pagenumbers is excellent, just pay attention to the order etc. --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum (talk) 12:22, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
Yeah I couldn't find rhinos as pillboxes either, just parts about field fortifications, methodical assaults, using titans, etc. I've added in what I found going through the sources. Harriticus (talk) 12:25, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
Please do remember to delete the parts from the talk page once you have re-sourced and re-integrated them. Otherwise there is a danger somebody will do the same work again, thanks. And once all quarantined items are removed of course the Quarantine templates should also be deleted. Also for what it is worth, I do remember reading about the Iron Warriors using their rhinos to build ad-hoc fortifications. Unfortunately no clue whatsoever where, probably in one of the very many HH novels. Just to say that this info probably is still out there somewhere. One point to start looking could be: "The Horus Heresy: Book Three - Extermination" pg. 127; "Angel Exterminatus (Novel)" pgs. 221, 282, 287, 290, 292, 300, 282, 289, 290, 388, 412, 417, 436-437, 466-46. At least that is what I could find trawling quickly through the internet, but it would obviously have to be checked. "Angel Exterminatus" I think also was the source originally given in the article, but without the word "pillbox" or any chapter or page I could not find it when I looked yesterday. --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum (talk) 14:30, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Correct Copyright template and source formatting

Please note that the correct Copyright template is {{Copyright}}, not {{GWCopyright}} anymore. Also please pay attention to leaving a space between the "pg. / pgs." and the actual pagenumbers when sourcing, thanks. --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum (talk) 15:40, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Also if you are anyway at the sources please try to keep the correct order within the same source block, thanks. --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum (talk) 15:41, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

okay, I'll remember Harriticus (talk) 15:43, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Alpha Legion

What is the correct source for "007.M31 — Chondax Campaign[41]"? pg. 88, 96, 189 or the whole book? --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum (talk) 15:51, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

The whole book is sprinkled with it, however 189 would work specifically as it mentions Alpha Legionaries operating in Chondax dressed up as white scars Harriticus (talk) 15:53, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
Good, b) it is then. Sources "2b: Part 2, Chapter 8" and "2g: Part 2, Chapter 8" have the same text. Is that a mistake and it should be two different chapters or is that the same chapter accidentally listed under two different footnotes? --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum (talk) 15:55, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
2g is supposed to be part 1 chapter 8 Harriticus (talk) 15:57, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
Done. --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum (talk) 16:09, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Oll Persson in Mortis

Would anyone be able to update Oll Persson's page? Oll Persson finally appeared in the latest Siege of Terra novel (it's Mortis). We learn things about him, such as the fact he knew the Theseus of Greek mythology and that the Minotaur was real (as were sirens, as we learned with him being with Jason's Argonauts in Mark of Calth). And he charged the tower of Babel with his fellow Perpetuals (with the Emperor leading the charge against the tower of Babel). I would update it, though I only read the spoilers. Waiting123456 (talk) 05:42, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

if someone had the book with chapter sure, as it stands now I don’t Harriticus (talk) 16:13, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

Hopefully we can eventually update when the regular book comes out in April. Waiting123456 (talk) 16:29, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

External links --> archive links

Please start using exclusively Wayback Machine links when referencing external links. I have recently amended the citation and External link guidelines to this effect, so this is official policy now. Should there be technical questions about this do not hesitate to get in touch, thanks. You should modify for example File:CydonArt.jpg, File:MauerArt.jpg and File:AcastiaArt.jpg accordingly. --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum (talk) 10:48, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

I’ve been trying, sometimes (especially on warhammer community) I get error messages saying the site doesn’t allow access Harriticus (talk) 15:48, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
It is a very caprisious site. Sometimes it give an error, but after some time (usually not much as 12 hours) the page seems as saved and error is dissapeared.--Darkelf77 (talk) 15:51, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
Sometimes when I archive it myself it only works after a second or third consecutive attempt, no idea why. Have not figured out yet if using another browser would make that better. --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum (talk) 06:07, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

Miniature uploads

If you want you can have a look at my relatively new template with which you can create dedicated miniature product pages. I am still somewhat experimenting with this, but I think I am on a good way with it. Here you can find some I have already catalogued. Cheers. --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum (talk) 14:09, 13 June 2021 (UTC)

cool, I'll give it a look thanks. Though a lot of the meta information (such as sculptures) for newer minis is unknown, Games Workshop stopped releasing credits for such things circa 2013 Harriticus (talk) 08:33, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
I was trying to be as comprehensive as possible after flipping through diverse catalogues, but of course I might always have overlooked sth that should not be missing on the template. So feel free to hit me up on that. That about newer meta info is somewhat of a shame but we'll have to live with it and just fill in what we find. --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum (talk) 17:50, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

About Ku'Gath And Rotigus

SPOILER!!! About your last adding to 'Great Unclean One' article. When you will complete the reading of 'Godblight' you will see who is ultimately 1st in Nurgle's favour and who is the 2nd ;).--Darkelf77 (talk) 19:31, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

I already did and yes I know the positions were reversed, but messed up there. Probably should be changed though it was the status quo for most of the setting Harriticus (talk) 19:33, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
Oh, It's ok then :)--Darkelf77 (talk) 19:41, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

Euphenia King Upload File

I have problems with the file I have uploaded and I don't Know How to edit the missing categories.Drakemander (talk)--

I added the category Harriticus (talk) 16:32, 29 June 2021 (UTC)

Page numbers of citations on the Known Members of the Thousand Sons page

Hi Harriticus - I can see you removed the page numbers of some citations I added on the Known Members of the Thousand Sons page. May I ask why you did this please? I assume there's some sort of rule about where page numbers should be but I can't spot it.

Also, thank you for adding the image of Astorthas the Inconstant and the Chaos Spawn link on his page!

  • Were Incorrectly cited and I added a new citation on with them included. See where the current footnote goes. Harriticus (talk) 10:56, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

OK, so the "pg. 22" at the end of the T'sathis Vhorr citation (Line 529) should go, too?

Image source

Please check File talk:DiggaTrukk.jpg, thanks. --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum (talk) 17:45, 20 February 2022 (UTC)

I added it, turns out the page number was in the image itself I later realized Harriticus (talk) 10:15, 21 February 2022 (UTC)

That is what I first thought. But unfortunately the whole source is wrong. At least according to my copy of Digganobs. It is also not from pg. 17 of any of the Gorkamorka box set books as far as I see. --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum (talk) 19:30, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

File:DNRBpg17.jpg

Interesting. It’s obviously from some sort of GW book but I’ll re-download all the digganob stuff and go through it Harriticus (talk) 10:43, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
If there are no different print runs of Digganobs (which I doubt, as the whole game was not around very long) my intuitive guess is some White Dwarf or other. WD promoted Gorkamorka quite heavily. The relatively high page count of "17" basically rules out dedicated promo pamphlets IMO. --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum (talk) 11:21, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
You were right about White Dwarf. I made an error putting the source down before as it's White Dwarf 218 (UK), pg. 17. Same as the other images I posted on the Digganobs page. Harriticus (talk) 13:25, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

FYI:

Click --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum (talk) 12:02, 24 January 2023 (UTC)

Miniature releases

Hello, since you're the most active user when it comes down to publishing new miniatures and/or box release, may i suggest 2 things :

  • wait for actual white-background images and avoid solid background images. They usually follow within the month in a WarCom article or the actual product page. This will save us the bother of replacing images later down the line for ones with clean background.
  • regarding box sets or limited releases, try to save the Webstore page link to the box lexicanum'page when it's up, in case the internet archive ever works again for GW pages. It's a bit time consuming to hunt down archived links :/

Happy editing ! --Siegfriedfr (talk) 10:01, 25 March 2023 (UTC)

  • I find it easier to get images links, thumbnails, etc done in an article in one go rather than later. When an all-white/clear image is released I just go back and update the file page to use it instead. You can see me doing it in many file history's on the site. If I've forgotten to update files this place please link me and I will
  • I certainly won't check the history of what you do, because you do alot, and its not my place to do so, i was merely proposing a way of working that would save you double the work, and getting the "final" white-background image, all in one go. There is no need, in my opinion, to rush publishing miniatures or box images on the lexi, especially the "announcement" images which are usually lacking, because there usually are multiple articles and then the product page which follow, with much better images --Siegfriedfr (talk) 09:39, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
  • I try to archive when I can, but it often doesn't work on my comp for whatever reason. It might be by VPN use or something. Not sure.Harriticus (talk) 09:00, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
  • to be clear, i wasnt saying that "you should archive", since it mostly doesn't work these days, but when a product page comes up for a limited time release, take the opportunity to add the link to the Box' webstore page (archived or not) for future reference, in the event that internet archive works again--Siegfriedfr (talk) 09:39, 26 March 2023 (UTC)

Invitation to participate in discussion about fundamental issues: Table standardization

Hello, as an active contributor you are hereby invited to give your view(s) on the issue of standardizing the Lexicanum tables. Link to the discussion: Warhammer_40k_-_Lexicanum_talk:Help_-_Table_overhaul#Table_Standardization. Thank you. --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum (talk) 15:47, 2 November 2023 (UTC)

Navigator sources' chapters

Once, many years ago, you made those edits:
https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=Navis_Nobilite&diff=prev&oldid=308557
https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=Navigator&diff=next&oldid=181820
sourcing Galaxy in Flames, and my pagination likely is off, as I couldn't find them. I guessed the one of 410 pg. is in chapter Seventeen, but the chapter seems not to contan this information. Could you quote what fragments were you referring to, if you're able and willing?--Brownpandanotgrizzly (talk) 20:23, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

I probably meant the novel Horus Rising, that stuff about Navigators in M22 is included in the timeline appendix at the end. Harriticus (talk) 05:21, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
Oh, okay. Thanks mate! Found it. --Brownpandanotgrizzly (talk) 13:11, 3 February 2024 (UTC)