Welcome to Warhammer 40k - Lexicanum! Log in and join the community.

Talk:Horus Heresy Series

From Warhammer 40k - Lexicanum
Jump to: navigation, search

Order

  • Slaves To Darkness is the direct following to Titandeath and the number of the volumes in french put StD direct after TD. Isn't the numbering of the volumes in english wrong? --Ackheron 05 April 2021 (CEST)
Not according to Black Library’s website. KazilDarkeye (talk) 17:17, 5 April 2021 (UTC)


Love what you've done putting all the Book covers in order at the bottom of the article, Nice... -- Endeavour 20:52, 18 July 2008 (CEST)

I switched the books section and covers section as I think the titles of the books, which comprise the series, are more important than the covers (even though they are great;)). It makes more sense (to me at least) to place the titles first in this article. -- JoeneB, 17 February 2007, 16:10 (CET)

Notable Characters

I added a list of (notable) characters to the article. This is a work in progress. I wanted to add more info but just found out my dad took my Horus Heresy books with him to read during his vacation. He'll be back today so later this week I'll edit/add some more and will try to group them according to the novels they appear in. The names that are listed now are those I could remember ;). The plan is to make this article more like the Last Chancers (Novel Series) as requested by SanchiTachi. -- JoeneB, 19 July 2007, 13:42 (CEST)
I've updated the list with Legion's characters. Wasn't sure how much detail is wanted here - several characters in the dramatis personae barely talk, and I'm unsure whether to include them. I've left the ones who actually spoke a little bit in, but I might take them out later. Oh, and should we be including expedition numbers in the non-astartes personnel (and Imperial Army personnel)? I did for one or two, but it'll just look cluttered soon. Kelmin 15:18, 23 February 2008 (CET)
Personally, I feel the expedition numbers are unnecessary, and that some of the characters listed (not just some of those from Legion) are rather too minor to appear; I would rather the character list feature just principal characters rather than everyone from the dramatis personae lists. --Mob 19:42, 29 February 2008 (CET)
Does no one else think Corax and Vulkan should be listed just after Ferrus? I mean they were at the Drop Site Massacre BritBoy 02:27, 15 March 2008 (CET)
I agree with this. Also, I pulled some minor characters from the list, they don't seem notable enough to justify inclusion here. Thoughts? --Mob 23:34, 16 March 2008 (CET)
And again; changing character list to 'Notable', to make it more useful. What exactly makes a notable character may be up for debate, but I think these were justifiable cuts. Thoughts? --Mob 21:26, 24 July 2008 (CEST)
The list of Notable Characters has risen to over 100. I feel that this section would be better served by moving it to the individual book's articles. What do the other's think? --Rlyehable 00:17, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
Indeed, a good candidate for a move, or even its own total article.--Jonru 00:21, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
Agree (moving). And a List of Horus Heresy Characters article - why not.--Genestealer, Magus 01:03, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
Agree and also agree with the creation of List of Horus Heresy Characters article.Kobol 14:05, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
Sounds good. Let's do it and see how it goes.--Mob 04:45, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
Done the above, all swift and dirty-like. There's obvious room for improvement, but upon looking at the resulting pages, I think this was a good idea.--Mob 06:03, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

Art Books

Would it be appropiate to add the http://www.blacklibrary.com/product.asp?prod=60040181012&type=Book books here? A good description of them is here http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/index.php?autocom=ineo&showarticle=7 And not to forget the card game which spawned all this trouble in the first place http://www.sabertoothgames.com/horus/lore_articles.asp

--Zigguratei 23:02, 27 February 2008 (CET)

IMHO, I think the art books would best be served by a having their own page, and again a separate page for the card game. --Mob 19:42, 29 February 2008 (CET)

Saturine Fleet

Wasn't this "saturnine" with n? --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum 16:40, 17 October 2008 (CEST)

Yep. Fixed. --Mob 17:14, 19 October 2008 (CEST)

How long will the series be?

Is it known how long the entire series is planned to be? Spectrum 01:54, 23 December 2008 (CET)

Till the books stop selling in sufficient quantities. --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum 02:05, 23 December 2008 (CET)

Just a suggestion, but shouldn't Omegon be listed as Primarch of the Alpha Legion right next to Alpharius. In the book Legion, he is listed as being an equal Primarch by the Cabal.

The non-novel stuff

Should we include it in the gallery? That little list at the bottom is only going to get longer, and it feels a shame not have all the cover artwork in the galley. Also, what with novellas coming out like this new Sallies one, the boundaries of what we're excluding from the novels list as 'not main series' are becoming blurry.--Mob 18:37, 16 April 2011 (CEST)

If we can scrap the images from somewhere, and as long as we can properly source from those complimenting sources, I don't see any problems with that. --DetlefK 00:19, 17 April 2011 (CEST)
Seeing as the series does not follow a strict timeline plot-wise, I think we can safely exclude the anthologies, novella(s) and audio books from the main list of novels. There is no reason why those can't have their own sections. --Halogian 16:03, 20 April 2011 (CEST)

Title

Seeing as the books themselves refer to the series as "The Horus Heresy" (rather than simply "Horus Heresy"), would it not be appropriate to move this article to reflect that? I realize the Black Library website lists the series as "Horus Heresy", but I wonder if that is not attributable to lazy webmasters and/or ease of navigation. There is also the matter of the improper capitalization of "series" in the article title, but that is a widespread issue on Lexicanum that can be dealt with later. Anyway, thoughts? --Halogian 16:09, 20 April 2011 (CEST)

Incorrect Numbering From Book 10/11 Onward

Mechanicum is listed as the ninth book in the series, and then the next book: Fallen Angels, which should be the tenth is listed as the eleventh book, this incorrect numbering continues for the rest of the listed books. Am I incorrect about this? and if not, can I go ahead and fix this?

You are correct, sir. Although, looking at the page, we've split them into novels and anthologies, while BL themselves group those together in the numbered order...--Mob 22:48, 7 February 2012 (CET)
I changed it back. --Halogian 15:45, 4 July 2012 (CEST)

Army of One

Any thoughts on how we should classify this: http://www.blacklibrary.com/all-products/army-of-one-ebook.html ? Thanks.--Mob 18:44, 1 April 2012 (CEST)

Change the "Anthologies and novellas" section to "Anthologies, short stories and novellas" or make new section "E - Books", plus make a new category (just short stories maybe, or E-books). I assume BL are going to release more of these single short story E-Books in the future.The Lemur 19:03, 1 April 2012 (CEST)
I would not start distinguishing between e- and paper. Better to include short stories with novellas. --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum 22:39, 1 April 2012 (CEST)

Cover Art

I've found image-files for the works, "Deathfire" and "MacRagge's Honour". I'm not sure what the protocol is for uploading images to the system, so here are links to the images on my mediafire account.


For "Deathfire": http://www.mediafire.com/view/bz42fcnhqpp77l6/possible_cover_of_DEATHFIRE_for_the_HORUS_HERESY_novel_by_Nick_Kyme_--_91tL5Vf43DL.jpg

And for "MacRagge's Honour": http://www.mediafire.com/view/3anwxek4wb6h7yw/possible_cover_of_MACRAGGE'S_HONOUR_for_the_HORUS_HERESY_graphic_novel_by_Dan_Abnett_and_Neil_Roberts_--_813peD1H9OL.jpg

And this alternate file for "MacRagge's Honour": http://www.mediafire.com/view/y3dlptl5vu73rqn/possible_cover_of_MACRAGGE'S_HONOUR_for_the_HORUS_HERESY_graphic_novel_by_Dan_Abnett_and_Neil_Roberts_--_3902146-001.jpg


So, one of you guys that's a bit more knowledgable about these matters might consider using them for cover art where there are presently placeholders. --MercWithMouth (talk) 18:21, 26 April 2015 (MDT)

There are two methods: 1) under the "tools" box, please select "Upload file" and follow the instructions, being sure to include the image's summary, source, the copyright disclosure ("GWCopyright" in brackets - double "{" - is the most convenient template), the source for the image, and the image categories. Once it is uploaded, go to the destination page(s), and edit it/them to include the image.

2) go to the destination page (e.g., for "Macragge's Honour") and edit it to add the image's filename (since it's not uploaded yet, just pick one). This will create a redlink, so click on it and follow it to upload the image. The best way to learn how to do this is to go to a complete image page, and click edit to look at the source code.--Proteus77 (talk) 10:40, 12 May 2015 (MDT)

Short stories

Just wondering if we should get some kind of proper process/clarification regarding short stories in the series. Specifically:

  • Do we want to list -all- short stories released, or just those released in some fashion separate from an anthology? If we're listing them separately and a story came out in an anthology first, do we list the date as the date of it's separate release, or it's anthology release (which is really the date it was actually available)?
  • With BL aiming to release all stories in both prose and audio format, is it worth separating the two, or should they be combined into one "short stories" section? And if they are kept separate, what determines which version is listed? Which came first?
  • If a story is released in an anthology first, then later separate, is that listed? What about the reverse, when a story is out separately first, then later in a collection?

Just look to get some clarity so we can tidy it up a bit. Prophaniti (talk) 10:01, 27 February 2016 (MST)

Any story or audio file published on its own deserves its own page regardless of when it was released. That way, there can be more detailed summaries and information on the publication that wont fit on an anthology page. As for the format, it is which ever independent format came out first. Midnight Sun (talk) 10:24, 27 February 2016 (MST)
Oh I don't mean whether or not they should have their own pages, I'm just talking about entries on this page specifically. But that does raise a good point that if the page is determined by what came out first (audio or prose), that should be reflected here.
What about which stories get entries here? Should it be all the stories, or just those released separately from an anthology? (e.g. should all the stories in Meduson be on here, or just Grey Talon and The Either?)
And also, I'm wondering if the limited release collections section should become just a "collections" section, to include Angron, Betrayal at Calth and Echoes of Ruin? That way it matches the navigation section for HH, and gives a convenient place for such things without making them look like their own stories.Prophaniti (talk) 15:16, 27 February 2016 (MST)
Any story with its own published entry or audio entry at the BL website has a summary, dates for release, etc. that need to be documented. That requires a separate page. Those that are merely part of an anthology and not separated do not have that information and do not need a separate page. This page documents all stand alone publications from BL. Midnight Sun (talk) 15:34, 27 February 2016 (MST)
Alrighty. There are a few missing I'll add in, and unless there's a good reason not to, I can make the above amendment to the "collections" section too. Or we could have a separate section for non-limited collections. I'm open to either. Prophaniti (talk) 15:51, 27 February 2016 (MST)
The Dark Between the Stars is no longer on their website. There is no explanation. Here is a cache version of the page [1] Released Feb 20 but taken down. Midnight Sun (talk) 21:28, 29 February 2016 (MST)

Valdor placement?

Should Valdor: Birth of the Imperium remain where it is now, in the Primarchs section, or be moved elsewhere? I know the cover design certainly fits with those books, but has it actually been confirmed as part of the Primarchs sub-series, or something of its own? Prophaniti (talk) 05:43, 12 November 2019 (MST)

It's pretty clear it's part of the Primarch's sub-series. From the text style to the fact it's classified as a Horus Heresy novel. It wouldn't be the first time a non-Primarch was in the series, see the Malcador Short Story. Harriticus (talk) 09:32, 12 November 2019 (MST)