Talk:Raven Guard

Anyone know who this Aajz Solari - Captain of the 2nd Company is? I've never heard of him anywhere, and am beginning to think he is either home made or just made up. I think there might be a number of these types spread throughout Lexicanum's Space Marine articles.--Jonru 10:58, 17 June 2006 (CEST)

Aajz Solari is first published in White Dwarf. The Raven Guard Index Astartes article by Graham McNeill and Erick Kilmer has two paragraphs on Aaj. The Title lists him as the captain of the 5th company, but the text lists him as captain of the 2nd company.

I've heard of Aajz Solari, but I've never heard of Corvin Arkham. I've looked over the Index Astartes article on the Raven Guard too (which further confirms Aajz Solari) but still cannot find any reference to Corvin Arkham or any Captain of the 4th yet (not counting player made captains).

Error in the used image

The image you used his not exactly Raven Guard, the color sceme look good but the symbol his blood angel

image

In addition to the previous note about the image, the shoulder color shown is red. The raven guard use red for thier assault squads. Granted you can field an assault squad without jump packs, however the marine shown has the arrow emblem designating him as a member of a tactical squad which uses the green shoulderpad.

I don't know. Referring to Codex Space Marines 4td Ed. the right shoulder color IS red... Index Astartes shows a green shoulder. Maybe differs from company to company? As the Codex Astartes says? --Talhydras 03:22, 25 June 2007 (CEST)

Vandalism- some fuckwit has been making some alterations, as while it may be perfectly true, it's not great style to say the raven guard are "very much into ravens, or "sprout feathers"- someone should probably deal with it

It's funny what you find when you Google your own name. I intended Aajz to be the 5th company captain, important but not one of the top few captains due to his brash actions and reliance on luck. It's not like my comments are cannon years after the article was posted but it the 5th company was my intent for what its worth. And for the record Corax's last word of 'Nevermore' was entirely Grahm McNeill and always makes me cringe when I read it. I also thought Corax going the route of so many other Primarchs and heading into the Eye of Terror never to be seen again was more than a bit cliche. I wanted him to go to Terra for absolution from the Emperor himself and never be seen again, it's a palace the size of a planet it wouldn't be hard to stay lost if you wanted too. - Erick Kilmer

Links

Has anyone noticed that clicking on any of the links to the space marine glands takes you to the space marine page instead of the "creating a space marine" page? Darkened wings 09:21, 8 October 2008 (CEST)

Three links fixed for you :)--Jonru 10:27, 8 October 2008 (CEST)

Raven Guard company colours

Hi, I'm new here, so be nice. I'm pretty sure that the right shoulder pad must be the company colour. They are a codex chapter, after all and company heraldry is pretty important. If you look in the new codex on page 117 a raven guard biker with an assault embalm on his right shoulder pad has the green trim with a 7 on his right leg (denoting that its the 7th squad). This must be either the 8th reserve company or the one of the other battle companies. I've already painted my 3rd company with uniform red trim to go with Shrike, including the dreadnoughts. I've painted my veterans with white trim, incidentally.

Raven Guard homeplanet original name was lycaeus

I found proof on 2 other websites contaning forums wich in cluded the raven guard and the thing they're absolutely sure of is that the original name of deliverance was, Lycaeus

corax isn't raven

corax doesn't mean raven, corvus corax means raven Raven is deleted because the sourcing wasn't correct, rules are rules, let's just say its a matter of principe.

First learn to spell, second you are incorrect. Corvus Corax is simply the modern species name for the common raven. Both Corvus and Corax mean Raven, Corvus comming from the Latin, Corax comming from the Greek in which it can be used to reference both crows and ravens. The species name Corvus Corax literally translates to Raven Raven, and is used to differentiate the 'common' Raven from other species. Warhammer is often full of Latin and Greek phrases throughout, and both languages tend to be used in reference to the games Gothic or 'High Gothic' languages. Annatar2 23 January 2010

But still, If you don't add a source, it is deleted that are the rules. User:Primarch19 23 january 2010 P.S. and what is spelled wrong if I may ask? Fine don't answer my question, so i asume that there is nothing spelled wrong, so don't mention it.

my apoligies

I'm sorry I thought Raven's Flight was an actual book, i'm sorry for the trouble. User:Primarch1914/02/2010 15:10 (CET)

Aajz Solari

pg. 30 of the 5th edition Space Marine Codex. Under Notable Engagements #11, Captain Aajz Solari of Raven guard in command over Hive Fleet Leviathan containment operations.

• Well done spotting that one but to correct you one one small fault, it's on page 31. Carion Lord 21:31, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
• Just wanted to thank you again for drawing attention to this detail and to let you know Aajz Solari's page has been updated accordingly. Carion Lord 21:45, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Equipment

In the section "Equipment" there are two sentences that seem to contradict each other. The first is "The available resources were too few to re-equip them and even today there is a higher percentage of ancient suits of armour amongst the Chapter than most others." This would suggest that Raven Guard is using Mark V and Mark VI Power Armour because of neccesity. But the second sentence (immediately following the first one) is clearly stating that: "The Raven Guard's chapter planet and base of operations has the production capacity of a small forge world, ensuring that the Raven Guard rarely lacks for the material to prosecute its campaigns." How could it be? On one side we are trying to say that weapons and equipment is old (if not outright obsolete) and on the other side we are saying that Kiavahr has small forge world production capacity. So, we can consider this. Raven Guard is using Mk VI power armour because it has better stealth capabilities than all other previous marks and maybe because Raven Guard Legion was field testing this armour and it is named after their primarch. Other than that, in Deliverance Lost it is written: "Branne laughed and jabbed a finger towards the conical faceplate in front of him. ‘Because we’re the Raven Guard and the armour has a beak?’ he said. ‘Some honour!’" (page 235) I'm looking forward to your comments on this. --Rajco502 10:07, 22 March 2012 (CET)

I noticed this aswell. The problem is that GW has written it both ways at different times -

• The IA Raven Guard Article states something like "After their near-destruction at Isstvan V, the Raven Guard had to make to do with older armour and equipment."

The problem with this is that Mk VI would be the most advanced type of armour at the time of the heresey, not an older one - so this is contradictory in itself. And Kiavahr has always been described as highly industrialised so it would seem unlikely that there would be problems equipping the Raven Guard (particularly as there werent many left after Istvaan.)

• Deliverance Lost describes a more logical scenario - the survivors were given the most advanced armour available, this ties in with the background of the history of the different models of power armour.

When there are direct contradictions in the sources, the policy is to regard the most current version as being "canon". So we should probably remove the "After their near-destruction at Isstvan V, the Raven Guard had to make to do with older armour and equipment. The available resources were too few to re-equip them" part and add a proper account of the Raven Guard getting the 1st batch of MkVI suits from Deliverance lost. The Lemur 18:03, 22 March 2012 (CET)

This is not a forum. It does not matter what we think. Stick to canon statements, that's it, thanks. --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum 00:00, 16 June 2012 (CEST)

Deleted. --User:Rajco502 13:12. 09 October 2012 (CEST)

=Agapito and Branne Nev

I have currently made both the articles of [[Vincente Sixx] and Solaro An but i'm hesitient of making pages for Branne and Agapito because of the massive amount of sources needed for them in Deliverance Lost. Would anyone like to help me with these pages? Thanks- User:Shadowcat18:10 (CST) 4/17/13

Size of Raven Guard Legion

The beginning of "Horus Heresy" section in RG page is stating that the XIX Legion numbering 80k Astartes was one of the larger legions. This information is based on Deliverance Lost where Corax led 80 000 legionaries to Istvaan V. But, in The Horus Heresy Book Two - Massacre the text on page 121 concerning Salamanders Legion says: "... estimates of a total active strength for the Salamanders Legion at the end of the Great Crusade of approximately 89 000 Legiones Astartes, placing them as among the smallest overall of the Legions in manpower." So we have a conflict here and I changed to wording on the main page. Until the next Horus Heresy Book is issued hopefully this time with more information about Raven Guard. --Rajco502 19:09, 20 October 2013 (CEST)

Shadow of the Emperor

I have changed the sourcing for this vessel. The First Heretic Novel identifies this ship as the flagship of the Raven Guard. I noted the previous sourcing linked to the 40k wiki. I believe the information contained on that site is not acceptable to the Lexicanum for sourcing. Please correct me if I am wrong.

The source additionally made references to how the ship was destroyed over Isstvan V by the Death Guard, however this information appears to come solely from the 40k wiki site and no where else. So I therefore deleted it. --Sanguinarius 17:40, 20 July 2014 (CEST)