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Armoury Lists

Is there any point in having all these new SM armory lists, only G. Knights, S. Wolves and Blood Angels really have significantlly different itemd from the reguular SMJ list. Thelemur 21:23, 23 January 2012 (CET)

Check my userpage and see how many are in the RPGs--Ashendant 22:05, 23 January 2012 (CET)
Aha, It all makes sense now!Thelemur 22:53, 23 January 2012 (CET)

I think all the basic work on the SM armoury lists is done now (except the Wolves, which I will make when Im sufficently motivated/drunk). How do you think we should deal with the RPG and other stuff? I was thinking of lists like "Named Artefacts (or weapons/wargear, etc) of the Ultramarines" which could include the RPG stuff and the named weapons etc from the codexes and other sources. That sound ok? I'd rather tie all the Named items up in one list per Chapter than have seperate pages that may only have one or two entries. Thelemur 18:09, 24 January 2012 (CET)

In that case i think it should be "Named Space Marine Artefacts" and put it all the chapters artefacts/relics in there(with a note from which chapter)
The problem is that most of these items in the RPG are not artefacts (because there's a part in rites of battle called chapter relics), but rather standard-issue items from each chapter. I think those that are not relics/artefacts should go into the armoury while the rest go to their respective pages.--Ashendant 19:55, 24 January 2012 (CET)
Hmm, ok. I made test pages for Ultra and Imp Fists - how about we add all the relevant info there atm, then we can decide on the best article heading. In hindsight "artefacts" is prob an innapropriate tile. Thelemur 20:15, 24 January 2012 (CET)
the RPG officially calls them "Chapter Relics" so we could probably make a single page called "Space Marine Chapter Relics(list)" and put them all in here with the mention of the chapter they currently belong too(the dawn of war 2 had a lot of gifted chapter relics).--Ashendant 20:23, 24 January 2012 (CET)

My main concern is that we dont want too many different lists and articles, so I thought one list per chapter tha could include the RPG stuff pluss "Codex" named items like the Gauntlets of Ultramar etc. We can have different sub-divisions on each page easily enough, but I def think the RPG items and the "regular" named items should be on the same list - I'm sure we can come up with a generic title that will cover most stuff, even if it means adding a few more sub-categories to the list. Thelemur 20:38, 24 January 2012 (CET)

i think one for all chapters works(there are lots of named items but not enough named items to make a good list if we make named relics articles by each chapter)--Ashendant 20:47, 24 January 2012 (CET)
I just thought chapter-specific pages would work better from a navigation point of view - a user on the Ultras page can link to Ultra specific items. Thelemur 20:54, 24 January 2012 (CET)
Though I suppose we could make 1 list and divide it by chapters - then we could do re-directs. Thelemur 20:54, 24 January 2012 (CET)
kinda like i said we could make one list and add a column for chapters(before the notes column).

But let's start going RPG Wargear chapter by chapter.

Start with Ultramarines:
  • Chapter Relic
    • Urion’s Doom
    • Jaw of Bloodcharn
  • Ranged Weapon
    • Gilded Boltgun
  • Melee Weapon
    • Honour Blades
  • Wargear/Equipment
    • First Company Relic
these are specific to the Utramarines no other chapter has them, so where do i put these?.--Ashendant 20:58, 24 January 2012 (CET)
If you want more information on a specific item tell me and i will post a quote with source,(just don't ask me to post them all at once).--Ashendant 20:59, 24 January 2012 (CET)
Or would you prefer if we started with the Blood Angels? since we already have an armoury for them?--Ashendant 21:02, 24 January 2012 (CET)

Nah - Ultras is a good place to star - I'll make a test page and we can see where we want to go from there. Thelemur 21:06, 24 January 2012 (CET)
Ok it's just that i noticed we already have an armoury for the BA and there are lots of BA items in the RPG.--Ashendant 21:08, 24 January 2012 (CET)
Once you make the page and put the tables i'll fill it.--Ashendant 21:09, 24 January 2012 (CET)

This is the test page - Named Artefacts of the Ultramarines (List), we can come up with a better title later. We can either have a page per Chapter or one big list - Im happy either way, but if we do decide on a single list, I think it should be divided by Chapter so we can have quick links to the appropriate pages. Thelemur 21:31, 24 January 2012 (CET)

I think a name like the Blood Angels Armoury would be good in this case Ultramarine Armoury.
It depends, if we are going to have named items together with normal standard issue of that chapter, then a armoury for each chapter.--Ashendant 21:44, 24 January 2012 (CET)
Ok done with the ultramarine section check it please and tell me if it's okay or if there's anything wrong.--Ashendant 22:02, 24 January 2012 (CET)
I added -

New Listies

I added Kroot Armoury (List) and Harlequin Armoury (List) - very rough layout, just change anything you think. The Lemur 03:07, 20 March 2012 (CET)

My Page

I did as you requested, but just out of curiosity - what are your opinions on the main page? I had left the various page styles there cos I thought people would instantly dislike what we did with the main page. The Lemur 00:46, 3 March 2012 (CET)

A bit too gaudy but as i read in the forums you already justified why, so i don't have any problems.--Ashendant 03:17, 3 March 2012 (CET)
Im just glad you read the forums! I got the impression I was the only English lexi gut that did! We did have a less gaudy colour schem for the main page - but I just deleted it at your request :p . The Lemur 03:24, 3 March 2012 (CET)
You justified why did you do choose the gaudy version and it was a god enough explanation.--Ashendant 11:33, 3 March 2012 (CET)

Images: File:Machina Opus DWRB.jpg

Missing internal link in description, missing internal link in source, missing category. --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum 14:33, 9 March 2012 (CET)

Machina Opus

I would leave it as its own article. Short summary in the honour badge article. Otherwise the honour badge article will become pretty cluttered up really fast. Anyway I would suggest using a more graphic approach. Or to say it in slang "Bitches loves themselves some galleries" ;) --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum 14:49, 9 March 2012 (CET)

Rites of Battle is a load of work, each honour has about half a page dedicated to them T.T, in this case i prefer if we not use galeries unless we turn the whole page into a table.--Ashendant 14:56, 9 March 2012 (CET)
THis kind of pages only makes sense as an overview, otherwise people will just get lost and it's difficult to navigate (in my opinion). Imagine the Chapter or regiment overview pages with details... --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum 15:04, 9 March 2012 (CET)
The only problem right now is what to make of those honour with just a line as a entry--Ashendant 15:38, 9 March 2012 (CET)
Well, I really don't know who "decided" that one-line articles are forbidden. Certainly not somebody with the right to decide this. If the articles are for example: "Ashendant is a contributor to the Lexicanum" and that's it, well than that's it. GW lore is full of these throw-away oneliners. --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum 15:41, 9 March 2012 (CET)
Okay--Ashendant 15:51, 9 March 2012 (CET)
Sometimes just being straightforward helps a lot. I always disliked "lump them together" articles. Overview articles are to give excatly that: an overview. And from there the reader should be guided to the place where he finds more information. By the way this also takes some pressure of the HUGE sourcing blocks these lists tend to aggregate. --Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Lexicanum 15:57, 9 March 2012 (CET)

Kill Team Project

Hi, since it is frequently the case that a small group of users end up working on various pages/projects together - I thought it might be an idea to have a page where we can discuss our various ideas together in one place, rather than over lots of different talk pages. I set up a page here for us to do that. I dont know if this idea will take off, or if anyone will be interested, but I thought it was worth trying - let me know what you think. The Lemur 03:39, 20 March 2012 (CET)

Latest Articles

Quality over quantity. Please revise your latest articles as soon as possible: They have the wrong format and no internal links. --DetlefK 00:32, 24 March 2012 (CET)

I have a lot of articles to do... and i'm beginning to hate this book--Ashendant 01:17, 24 March 2012 (CET)
I'm growing more desperate by the day because this book is neverending :(--Ashendant 01:20, 24 March 2012 (CET)
I'll take into account when making new ones, but i don't think i have the mind to do it for every article i did in last few days that came from Rites of Battle.--Ashendant 01:32, 24 March 2012 (CET)

I think Detlef's point was that he would rather see 1 complete page created than 10 incomplete ones. You must have created hundreds of these pages, kudos for that, but it means that someone else is going to have to go through hundreds of pages to add links etc. (especially as most of these pages dont actually link to an others - currently they are just dead ends). The Lemur 01:40, 24 March 2012 (CET)

ill be doing it for all the ones i make after this.i just don't have the mind to backtrack them all--Ashendant 01:55, 24 March 2012 (CET)

Deathwatch images

The deathwatch images you uploaded are missing their categories.--Ytokes 02:47, 5 April 2012 (CEST)


I noticed you took RPG adventure-seeds as information at face-value. I don't know if this is correct: To me, adventure-seeds always were some kind of hypothetical. --DetlefK 00:04, 19 May 2012 (CEST)

I also had doubts about it, but if you take adventure seeds as hypothetical you also have to consider the scenarios they built entire books around(ex:Dark Heresy: Church of the Damned) as hypothetical. In context the Adventure-seeds are built on concrete information, but it leaves the result of that totally to the player.
What i mean is the Seed itself is concrete open-ended information that should be used, the Adventure is entirely hypothetical scenario that can never be used. If more people disagree with me i will stop using them entirely.--Ashendant 02:18, 19 May 2012 (CEST)

Deathwatch: Honour the Chapter

Over on Lemur's Kill Team page you forgot to leave page number for the Doom Eagles extract. Im not going add my edits till I can that, otherwise...Revert! Cheers.--Ytokes 09:52, 1 August 2012 (CEST)

Done--Ashendant 16:06, 1 August 2012 (CEST)
Dude, page numbers again, for the blood ravens!-Ytokes 09:31, 13 August 2012 (CEST)

New Source Method

Hiyda Ashendant, thanks for the response. I had been away from Lexicanum for a while so had been using the old sourcing formula. So, thanks for that and will make sure I use them in the future. Take care! --C'tan 20:59, 21 September 2012 (CEST)

RPG info

Okay thanks will do if needed.--Harriticus 03:34, 27 December 2012 (CET)


Would you be able to have moderators on the Warhammer 40k Lexicanum part update the canon policy?--User:Waiting123456

My answer is the same as before. We are currently working on the Help Guidelines, so when we get to the Canon policy we'll add a section about what you spoke about. It will take some time to get there and it's inadvisable to rush something like this. I ask you to be patient.--Ashendant (talk) 16:09, 19 April 2019 (MDT)
1d4chan has a page for "canon" and shows quotes for it from authors. User:Waiting123456
Thanks for bringing it to my attention. We'll take it into account.--Ashendant (talk) 19:57, 19 April 2019 (MDT)